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2020-02-07 00:26:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Hello

2020-02-07 00:27:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

No way I'm going to read this whole conversation

2020-02-07 00:27:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You're actually arguing about whether the original Bible was edited ?! Seriously !?! Of course it's been edited. Everybody thinks it's been edited. Even the Catholic Church thinks it's been edited. Every time it is translated it is edited. Translating is editing

2020-02-07 00:29:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

you have to be retarded not to realize that translation is editing that's why the Catholic Church murdered people for translating it

2020-02-07 00:29:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Everybody that tried to translate it out of Latin got murdered for hundreds of years by the Catholic Church

2020-02-07 00:30:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

And putting it in Latin in the first place was editing it extremely

2020-02-07 00:30:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I can't believe you guys are arguing about whether the original Bible was edited

2020-02-07 00:30:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

They were a bunch of different books. They still are. All of those books were edited individually as well as all together

2020-02-07 00:31:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Translating it is editing it. That's why the Catholic Church murdered everyone that tried to translate it into anything other than Latin.

2020-02-07 00:31:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

But putting it in Latin in the first place was editing it

2020-02-07 00:31:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

And it's not just one book it's many many books

2020-02-07 00:31:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I absolutely did murder anyone that attempted to translate it

2020-02-07 00:32:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You need to read history buddy

2020-02-07 00:32:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Translating the Bible into anything other than Latin was a death sentence

2020-02-07 00:32:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I'm saying something that is absolutely obvious. I can't believe you guys are having an argument about whether or not the original Bible was edited.
That's like having an argument about whether the original Bible has words. It's an absurd and ridiculous argument. No one in their right mind could say that the original Bible was not edited

2020-02-07 00:33:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The only reason why the Orthodox Church was able to change it's to a different language other than Latin is because they had armies that protected them from the Catholic Church

2020-02-07 00:33:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Translating the Bible was heresy and heresy was punishable by death

2020-02-07 00:34:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The Orthodox church had armies protecting them. There was serious politics involved.

2020-02-07 00:35:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

we're talking about translating into English and the only reason it was able to be translated into English is because an army was protecting the translators from the Catholic Church

2020-02-07 00:35:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The first person that put it into English was murdered by the Catholic Church

2020-02-07 00:35:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

everyone that tried to put it in any language other than Latin was murdered by the Catholic church if the Catholic church was able to do it

2020-02-07 00:35:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The reason is because translating it is editing it

2020-02-07 00:35:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The only people that weren't murdered or people that had armies protecting them

2020-02-07 00:36:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Anyway the argument that it hasn't been edited is ridiculous

2020-02-07 00:36:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I think we can agree that editing has been done

2020-02-07 00:36:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

But translating was not very much editing. The really big editing happened when they chose which books to put in the Bible. They removed all kinds of stuff. they didn't add very much they just mostly removed stuff. No question it was edited.

2020-02-07 00:37:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

And this happened over thousands of years.

2020-02-07 00:37:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Taking all of those different books and trying to make one book out of it was extreme editing

2020-02-07 00:38:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Even now the Catholic church has a different Bible than Protestant churches

2020-02-07 00:41:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Jesus Christ was the god of the old testament and yes he does pop in and out and say hi

2020-02-07 00:42:06 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

God did not stop communicating

2020-02-07 00:42:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

That is false doctrine

2020-02-07 00:42:22 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

God continues to communicate and he continues to pop in and say hi

2020-02-07 00:42:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

He has always popped in and I said hi

2020-02-07 00:47:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

He does come down in human form. He is resurrected and therefore has a resurrected body. When he pops in to say hi then of course he has a body

2020-02-07 00:48:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It's not a contradiction to accept revelation. It's false doctrine did not accept that God has always revealed

2020-02-07 00:49:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Proof of what ? All of this is about faith. 100% of it is about faith. You can't prove anything. None of us can prove anything. That's what faith is so important.

2020-02-07 00:49:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Faith in Jesus Christ is what it's all about

2020-02-07 00:49:43 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

There have always been Revelations and there always will be Revelations

2020-02-07 00:50:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

To what lines are you referring ?

2020-02-07 00:50:36 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Each book in the Bible is an individual book as anyone that knows anything about the Bible knows

2020-02-07 00:50:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Lines in that book are about that book

2020-02-07 00:50:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

There cannot be proved otherwise faith is irrelevant

2020-02-07 00:51:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Faith is critical

2020-02-07 00:51:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Everything is about faith. It's not about proof. If you must have proof of everything then you have no faith

2020-02-07 00:51:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

We can't prove that Moses parted the Red Sea. We can't prove that God appeared to Moses.

2020-02-07 00:52:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

None of these things can be proven

2020-02-07 00:52:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It's about faith exactly

2020-02-07 00:52:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

If you saw Jesus an hour ago then you have a personal relationship with him and that's your business

2020-02-07 00:52:38 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You don't have to prove it to me

2020-02-07 00:52:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I don't have to believe you but I might

2020-02-07 00:53:51 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

If you have proof than faith is irrelevant

2020-02-07 00:53:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

But faith is everything

2020-02-07 00:54:31 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

We have no proof of any of these things. It is all about faith. It is about testimony. It is about a personal relationship with the savior

2020-02-07 00:55:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Well if you're an atheist or agnostic then you don't have much faith in Jesus Christ but no one's forcing you to

2020-02-07 00:56:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I want to change my picture but it's not letting me do that

2020-02-07 00:56:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The Bible is all about faith also. Can't prove anything in the Bible is true

2020-02-07 00:57:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

The second coming is not just about him arriving. He arrives all the time. The second coming is an event

2020-02-07 00:57:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You misunderstand what the second coming is

2020-02-07 00:58:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

In the second coming he shows himself to all people as the savior and the Christ

2020-02-07 00:58:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It is just labeled the second coming. That doesn't mean that he didn't come before the first coming

2020-02-07 00:58:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So what you're saying doesn't make sense does it

2020-02-07 00:58:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

There are many more than 2 arrivals of Jesus Christ as we well know

2020-02-07 00:59:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

We don't have anything called the first coming

2020-02-07 01:02:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Well you're welcome to believe that

2020-02-07 01:03:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I believe that Jesus is not silent

2020-02-07 01:03:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I believe that Jesus is personally involved in his gospel

2020-02-07 01:03:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Jesus has always been personally involved

2020-02-07 01:04:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I respect you saying that you're agnostic

2020-02-07 01:04:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

So many people pretend to be atheists

2020-02-07 01:04:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Those people tend to be very annoying

2020-02-07 01:04:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

You are interested and having a real discussion

2020-02-07 01:04:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

That's good

2020-02-07 01:05:07 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Why not ?

2020-02-07 01:06:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I understand why you might believe that but I don't think so. I don't know how often he appears in the flesh. I think most of the time it's just to an individual and for individual purposes I think he does appear in the flash on a regular basis.

2020-02-07 01:06:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

But when that happens the vast majority of the time people don't go around talking about it because it was in a personal experiences

2020-02-07 01:07:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

Yes of course the vast majority of the time it is the holy spirit through which he communicates with us

2020-02-07 01:07:43 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I think it would be a very special occasion if you were to appear in person but we can't know how many times he does that.

2020-02-07 01:08:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I have no idea. It could be once every 10 years or 10 times a day. Beats me ... But there's no reason why he wouldn't do that

2020-02-07 01:08:30 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I don't think it matters

2020-02-07 01:08:44 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I think Debating something that doesn't matter

2020-02-07 01:08:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

I want to do something else too

2020-02-07 01:09:27 UTC [The Right Cafe #religion]  

It was good talking to you

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