Message from @Sentient23

Discord ID: 675392437065220096


2020-02-07 17:24:23 UTC  

Omniscient etc

2020-02-07 17:24:34 UTC  

God knows all yes, however, just because god knows you will do X, does not mean you will necessarily do X, but that you WILL do x

2020-02-07 17:24:37 UTC  

the difference here

2020-02-07 17:24:37 UTC  

is

2020-02-07 17:24:45 UTC  

That there is no "necessity" for you to do X

2020-02-07 17:24:51 UTC  

As you could still do y

2020-02-07 17:24:56 UTC  

since its not necessary to do X

2020-02-07 17:25:20 UTC  

Yes but. When he made you he knew everything you would do before you did it. Yes?

2020-02-07 17:25:33 UTC  

I already addressed that

2020-02-07 17:25:39 UTC  

God knows i will do X

2020-02-07 17:25:50 UTC  

However, that doesn't mean i will necessarily do X

2020-02-07 17:26:22 UTC  

Then god isnt omnipotent in that scenario

2020-02-07 17:26:25 UTC  

gg

2020-02-07 17:26:30 UTC  

sperg mode

2020-02-07 17:26:54 UTC  

Where am i wrong

2020-02-07 17:27:06 UTC  

This is the meme that ruined christianity for me

2020-02-07 17:27:13 UTC  

its complete shit

2020-02-07 17:27:23 UTC  

Mate you dont understand propositional logic

2020-02-07 17:27:33 UTC  

if an invalid syllogism convinced you against Christianity, u got a lot reading to do

2020-02-07 17:27:43 UTC  

Is this the argument of theological fatalism, yes or no

2020-02-07 17:28:25 UTC  

The thing about the argument is that it is FORMALLY INVALID

2020-02-07 17:28:31 UTC  

and because its formally invalid, the INFERENCE RULE IS INVALID

2020-02-07 17:28:38 UTC  

and since the inference rule is invalid, THE CONCLUSION IS INVALID

2020-02-07 17:28:42 UTC  

this is how propositional logic 101 works

2020-02-07 17:29:51 UTC  

How do you have free will if the being that made you made the physical being and environment you are in and he knows all outcomes of it already? A god that is omnipotent already knows where all threads end by default. He is to blame and credit for everything , an omnipotent god is actually unable to give freewill since HE IS or HE MADE all things.

However. He could , if he is omnipotent, make a being he knows all about but make that being think it has free will.

2020-02-07 17:30:25 UTC  

easy. why wouldn't you

2020-02-07 17:30:43 UTC  

bruh

2020-02-07 17:30:44 UTC  

why would His knowledge of your actions means that He dictated them?

2020-02-07 17:30:46 UTC  

>ignores my response

2020-02-07 17:30:52 UTC  

whatever, sperg

2020-02-07 17:31:22 UTC  

this dude somehow thinks that formal invalidity somehow doesnt mean the argument isn't sound

2020-02-07 17:31:30 UTC  

<:absoluteretardation:591182455885660178>

2020-02-07 17:31:51 UTC  

chill out

2020-02-07 17:32:04 UTC  

I need to scroll and read.

2020-02-07 17:32:12 UTC  

adhom gay

2020-02-07 17:32:18 UTC  

>adhom

2020-02-07 17:32:27 UTC  

man its so annoying when peolpe throw around logical fallacies without knowing what they mean

2020-02-07 17:32:37 UTC  

an adhom is resorting to insults instead of acknowledging arguments

2020-02-07 17:32:39 UTC  

I acknowledged your argument

2020-02-07 17:32:40 UTC  

Keep it civil before I intervene.

2020-02-07 17:33:13 UTC  

One side being irrational or insulting does not give you the right to do the same.