Message from @Sentient23
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and i already told you that im genuinely not gonna lol, requesting it again wont change my mind mate, you might wanna work on your argumentation since this "repeat it 20 times even when i get a counter argument" tactic is really sad
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Hello all
hello
Herro
How goes life?
Mundane
@moira when I go on break in 2:30 hours I should be able to address you.
God is omnipotent as he can actualize any potential yes.
God is omniscient yes.
God is goodness yes.
So lay out the problem of evil in your view for me, assuming that's the argument you're going to use.
@Sentient23 Would you debate me instead on ontology specifically aquinas? I already agreed with the first concept at least as far as that there are far higher forces that impact our reality.
@Ater Votum what were you planning to debate?
@Eoppa theology and own metaphysical notions
@Ater Votum what about it
what else is there ? its a concept that seems valid.
present the other ones
its a contained idea , almost any religion or spirituality could claim it
im playing cs rn way
wait
What "other" concepts do you wanna know?
what ?
You said "present the other concepts"
what do u wanna know
what issues do u want me to explain
well i don't ask you now
Hmm
I already said i agree with the first way
Do u want me to present the second way?
THe second way is much more easier to conceptualize
Basically it goes like this:
Causes and effects exists, therefore, there is a causal chain (i.e a chicken laying an egg, then the egg growing into a chicken etc)
However, something cannot cause itself (this was in the first way as well which you agreed to)
However, there cannot be an infinite chain of causality. Why:
P1 In order to have gotten to this point, we would've had to have successfully traversed the prior causal chain
p2 However, traversing infinity is impossible
p3 Therefore, the causal chain is fininte, and at the bottom of the causal chain there is something uncaused which caused everything to come into being
(im gonna eat breakfast and then do homework so my responses may be derailed)
You know what's great
being forgiven for something you didn't do
I'm genuinely curious
Why is the bible the word of god?
It was written, put together, and edited by man
@Dr. Emperor Thanatos the wise yes and most of the events therein deal with us mere mortals.
But then, that's not the point. The point is the inspiration many get from reading the said holy books is beyond the norm.
@Sentient23 You argue that a good moral compass cannot exist without religion, yes?