Message from @Gothik Extravaganza

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2020-02-07 17:52:50 UTC  

You seem to think that just because god knows X, x will necessarily happen as X has already happened which isnt true

2020-02-07 17:53:04 UTC  

as me wanking is only true when i wank

2020-02-07 17:53:16 UTC  

God operates beyond time itself

2020-02-07 17:53:21 UTC  

He's not bound by time

2020-02-07 17:53:57 UTC  

thus the objection doesn't apply since he's beyond time itself, and hence no "necessarily x will happen" as x didnt already happen since there was no time to begin with

2020-02-07 17:54:24 UTC  

since "x will happen" implies time

2020-02-07 17:55:10 UTC  

I always get here with folks. Its a binary. You are omnipotent and omniscient and know all or you dont.

If you do, its impossible to create something with freewill because in reality you know everything it will do before it does it. If you say god only knows potentials then god ISNT omnipotent.
unless you change definition.

2020-02-07 17:55:27 UTC  

Dude youre restating yourself at this point

2020-02-07 17:55:31 UTC  

you might as well talk to yourself

2020-02-07 17:55:38 UTC  

I cba to have a debate with someone who argues like you

2020-02-07 17:55:50 UTC  

>presents argument X
>presents counter argument against X
>restates X

2020-02-07 17:55:54 UTC  

No time for this, bye

2020-02-07 17:56:14 UTC  

I am because what you say doesnt rebutt that
If it does, please reword

2020-02-07 17:56:20 UTC  

gg fam

2020-02-07 17:56:33 UTC  

im sorry your abstract thinking skills are of a 9 year old

2020-02-07 17:57:07 UTC  

Explain it like im 9

2020-02-07 17:57:25 UTC  

i said im not gonna continue the debate, dont be zealous

2020-02-07 17:58:05 UTC  

Im not. I genuinely want you to explain it to me

2020-02-07 17:59:14 UTC  

My gripe addresses three core ideas in christianity.

God is omnipotent.
God knows all.
God has a morality.

Yes to all of these?

2020-02-07 17:59:26 UTC  

and i already told you that im genuinely not gonna lol, requesting it again wont change my mind mate, you might wanna work on your argumentation since this "repeat it 20 times even when i get a counter argument" tactic is really sad

2020-02-07 18:12:33 UTC  

🍿
Hello all

2020-02-07 18:20:02 UTC  

hello

2020-02-07 18:21:03 UTC  

Herro

2020-02-07 19:20:52 UTC  

How goes life?

2020-02-07 19:29:49 UTC  

Mundane

2020-02-07 19:34:39 UTC  

@moira when I go on break in 2:30 hours I should be able to address you.
God is omnipotent as he can actualize any potential yes.
God is omniscient yes.
God is goodness yes.

2020-02-07 19:35:16 UTC  

So lay out the problem of evil in your view for me, assuming that's the argument you're going to use.

2020-02-07 21:36:06 UTC  

@Sentient23 Would you debate me instead on ontology specifically aquinas? I already agreed with the first concept at least as far as that there are far higher forces that impact our reality.

2020-02-08 01:04:56 UTC  

@Ater Votum what were you planning to debate?

2020-02-08 01:05:03 UTC  
2020-02-08 05:06:05 UTC  

@Eoppa theology and own metaphysical notions

2020-02-08 05:25:30 UTC  

@Ater Votum what about it

2020-02-08 05:26:44 UTC  

what else is there ? its a concept that seems valid.

2020-02-08 05:27:04 UTC  

present the other ones

2020-02-08 05:27:24 UTC  

its a contained idea , almost any religion or spirituality could claim it

2020-02-08 05:27:36 UTC  
2020-02-08 05:28:22 UTC  

im playing cs rn way

2020-02-08 05:28:24 UTC  

wait

2020-02-08 05:38:19 UTC  

What "other" concepts do you wanna know?

2020-02-08 05:38:21 UTC  

its a vague question

2020-02-08 05:39:18 UTC  

what ?