no

if they're heretics they're not popes

that's the point

Isn't the selection of pope supposed to be divinely inspired?

the selection of **popes**
if they're heretics they aren't popes and are antipopes posing as popes

you're misrepresenting the position

you can attack the position on so many harder levels instead of this silly attempt

How am I misrepresenting the position? How could a heretic get into the highest seat of God's church if part of the ritual of selection is supposed to involve divine inspiration from God himself?

Do you not read?

The point is that he's not a pope

He's an anti pope, therefore the divine aspect of the selection of POPES does not apply to him

The whole concept of a "Pope" is absurd.

anyways

So then the infallibility of the pope has nothing to do with the title of pope but it's something that the people are destined for prior to their inauguration

No? What do you mean destined

Dude, this is so simple

If you're a heretic you're not a pope but an anti pope

It is simple to you but to me you're expressing paradoxical thinking and cognitive dissonance

if you're a heretic, we can deduce that the divine aspect of the selection does not apply, since its about selection of POPES, and if you';re an anti pope, you're not a pope

Stop projecting

nigga what

What's not clear

The infallibility of the man in the funny hat unless you find him to be heretical

its not about "me" finding anything, stop implying its subjective lmao

I don't see how this addresses anything

its simple, just stop misrepresenting our position

If the pope is capable of being a heretic or "anti pope" then clearly the man nor the title are infallible

You're over complicating this with abstractions to maintain infallibility

*If the pope is capable of being a heretic* the argument stops right here, since if they're a heretic they're not a pope

I'm not overcomplicating anything, its rather simple really

how could a heretic possibly get in the seat of the pope if the selection process is divine

Can you not read, please i cant repeat myself

If he's a heretic he's not a pope

If he's a heretic and not a pope, it means that that divine selection didn't apply to him

@Lekka if they're an anti pope then it's not divine and therefore papal infallibility is maintained because it doesn't count

No

Framing it as "it doesn't count" is disingenuous as fuck

So cut it out

yes but how could he be in the POSITION/SEAT of the pope if youre a heretic

HE"S NOT

He's not in the seat of the pope if he's a heretic thats the point