if you're a heretic, we can deduce that the divine aspect of the selection does not apply, since its about selection of POPES, and if you';re an anti pope, you're not a pope

Stop projecting

nigga what

What's not clear

The infallibility of the man in the funny hat unless you find him to be heretical

its not about "me" finding anything, stop implying its subjective lmao

I don't see how this addresses anything

its simple, just stop misrepresenting our position

If the pope is capable of being a heretic or "anti pope" then clearly the man nor the title are infallible

You're over complicating this with abstractions to maintain infallibility

*If the pope is capable of being a heretic* the argument stops right here, since if they're a heretic they're not a pope

I'm not overcomplicating anything, its rather simple really

how could a heretic possibly get in the seat of the pope if the selection process is divine

Can you not read, please i cant repeat myself

If he's a heretic he's not a pope

If he's a heretic and not a pope, it means that that divine selection didn't apply to him

@Lekka if they're an anti pope then it's not divine and therefore papal infallibility is maintained because it doesn't count

No

Framing it as "it doesn't count" is disingenuous as fuck

So cut it out

yes but how could he be in the POSITION/SEAT of the pope if youre a heretic

HE"S NOT

He's not in the seat of the pope if he's a heretic thats the point

because heretics cant be popes

thus they're antipopes posing as popes

how many times do i gotta repeat this

I guess until you realize we're saying the same thing with different linguistic abstractions and I'm just not using one that allows the institution to maintain it's dignity in the midst of electing people they consider heretics into the papacy

Yeah i don't see how that addresses anything

Try again maybe?

How does an anti pope rise to power?

In what way?

In the way that he becomes the leader of the Catholic Church

he's elected

how

he gets voted on?

isnt the election process divine tho?

Except when it's the anti pope. Why would the Cardinals vote in the equivalent of the Antichrist into the papacy @Sentient23

They're mistaken, and deceit

They're just degenerates

That's all

what