Message from @Sentient23
Discord ID: 688755826915409943
It is simple to you but to me you're expressing paradoxical thinking and cognitive dissonance
if you're a heretic, we can deduce that the divine aspect of the selection does not apply, since its about selection of POPES, and if you';re an anti pope, you're not a pope
Stop projecting
nigga what
What's not clear
The infallibility of the man in the funny hat unless you find him to be heretical
its not about "me" finding anything, stop implying its subjective lmao
I don't see how this addresses anything
its simple, just stop misrepresenting our position
If the pope is capable of being a heretic or "anti pope" then clearly the man nor the title are infallible
You're over complicating this with abstractions to maintain infallibility
*If the pope is capable of being a heretic* the argument stops right here, since if they're a heretic they're not a pope
I'm not overcomplicating anything, its rather simple really
how could a heretic possibly get in the seat of the pope if the selection process is divine
Can you not read, please i cant repeat myself
If he's a heretic he's not a pope
If he's a heretic and not a pope, it means that that divine selection didn't apply to him
@Lekka if they're an anti pope then it's not divine and therefore papal infallibility is maintained because it doesn't count
No
Framing it as "it doesn't count" is disingenuous as fuck
yes but how could he be in the POSITION/SEAT of the pope if youre a heretic
HE"S NOT
He's not in the seat of the pope if he's a heretic thats the point
because heretics cant be popes
thus they're antipopes posing as popes
how many times do i gotta repeat this
I guess until you realize we're saying the same thing with different linguistic abstractions and I'm just not using one that allows the institution to maintain it's dignity in the midst of electing people they consider heretics into the papacy
Yeah i don't see how that addresses anything
Try again maybe?
How does an anti pope rise to power?
In what way?
In the way that he becomes the leader of the Catholic Church
he's elected
how
he gets voted on?
isnt the election process divine tho?
Except when it's the anti pope. Why would the Cardinals vote in the equivalent of the Antichrist into the papacy @Sentient23
They're mistaken, and deceit
They're just degenerates
That's all