Message from @MENELIK THE IMPENETRABLE

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2020-03-26 00:10:32 UTC  

```they have pierced my hands and feet , they have numbered all my bones```

2020-03-26 00:10:51 UTC  

It was said when you suffered.

2020-03-26 00:11:07 UTC  
2020-03-26 00:11:34 UTC  

Jesus had never sinned, never did any desire contradict.

2020-03-26 00:12:22 UTC  

I never said he sinned, my argument was :
If god and jesus share the same essence, then why would jesus cry out for help

2020-03-26 00:12:38 UTC  

If he knew god was with him, he would be at peace

2020-03-26 00:15:34 UTC  

Did you not read what I said

2020-03-26 00:16:04 UTC  

?

2020-03-26 00:20:33 UTC  

U said it was from psalms, and it wasn't a cry out for help, but he called on God, which means god is separate from his essence

2020-03-26 00:20:59 UTC  

Is the Holy Spirit God?

2020-03-26 00:21:11 UTC  

No it's the holy spirit

2020-03-26 00:21:15 UTC  

The spirit of god

2020-03-26 00:24:05 UTC  

Then why does God interact with the Holy Spirit? Each person is distinct, that's why they have relationships. The Son can do nothing without the Father.

2020-03-26 00:24:19 UTC  

The Holy Spirit is regarded as distinct form the Father as well

2020-03-26 00:25:10 UTC  

I can interact with parts of my being as well

2020-03-26 00:25:14 UTC  

It's not that deep

2020-03-26 00:25:50 UTC  

When I am in danger without knowing it, another part of my being interacts with me and warns me

2020-03-26 00:26:08 UTC  

There you go?

2020-03-26 00:26:09 UTC  

If I can do that, then so can god, plus much more

2020-03-26 00:26:21 UTC  

You just refuted your criticism

2020-03-26 00:26:31 UTC  

But crying out to someone is different than interacting

2020-03-26 00:26:51 UTC  

I already explained it wasn't a cry out

2020-03-26 00:26:55 UTC  

Interacting just means involved with

2020-03-26 00:27:05 UTC  

It was
Matthew 27:46 (also Mark 15:34)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” (NKJV)

2020-03-26 00:27:19 UTC  

Fact check it yourself

2020-03-26 00:28:57 UTC  

Now, can my own intuitive being depart from me?

2020-03-26 00:29:00 UTC  

It wasn't a cry out as in how you represent it is my point

2020-03-26 00:29:30 UTC  

You claim he was wondering why God left him, that's simply false

2020-03-26 00:29:39 UTC  

> I already explained it wasn't a cry out
@Eoppa
You literally said it wasn't a cry out.
And it is

2020-03-26 00:29:49 UTC  

Matthew 27:46 (also Mark 15:34)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” (NKJV)

2020-03-26 00:30:32 UTC  

You need to read even what I said in context, I understand he 'cried out', but his will was not against the Father is my point.

2020-03-26 00:30:55 UTC  

I'm not saying his will was against the father

2020-03-26 00:31:04 UTC  

I'm saying the father was not with him

2020-03-26 00:31:08 UTC  

Then you have no objection

2020-03-26 00:31:11 UTC  

The father departed from him

2020-03-26 00:31:22 UTC  

And you said the father is apart of his essence

2020-03-26 00:31:46 UTC  

Then you do not know the Psalms he was quoting

2020-03-26 00:32:22 UTC  

If heat is apart of a fires essence, then if a fire is no longer hot, the essence Is not being shared

2020-03-26 00:32:32 UTC  

Just for the sake of analogy

2020-03-26 00:33:11 UTC  

I wasn't quoting psalms, I was quoting Matthew

2020-03-26 00:34:09 UTC  

You know what he was quoting right?