Message from @MENELIK THE IMPENETRABLE
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U said it was from psalms, and it wasn't a cry out for help, but he called on God, which means god is separate from his essence
Is the Holy Spirit God?
No it's the holy spirit
The spirit of god
Then why does God interact with the Holy Spirit? Each person is distinct, that's why they have relationships. The Son can do nothing without the Father.
The Holy Spirit is regarded as distinct form the Father as well
I can interact with parts of my being as well
It's not that deep
When I am in danger without knowing it, another part of my being interacts with me and warns me
There you go?
If I can do that, then so can god, plus much more
You just refuted your criticism
But crying out to someone is different than interacting
I already explained it wasn't a cry out
Interacting just means involved with
It was
Matthew 27:46 (also Mark 15:34)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” (NKJV)
Fact check it yourself
Now, can my own intuitive being depart from me?
It wasn't a cry out as in how you represent it is my point
You claim he was wondering why God left him, that's simply false
Matthew 27:46 (also Mark 15:34)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” (NKJV)
You need to read even what I said in context, I understand he 'cried out', but his will was not against the Father is my point.
I'm not saying his will was against the father
I'm saying the father was not with him
Then you have no objection
The father departed from him
And you said the father is apart of his essence
Then you do not know the Psalms he was quoting
If heat is apart of a fires essence, then if a fire is no longer hot, the essence Is not being shared
Just for the sake of analogy
I wasn't quoting psalms, I was quoting Matthew
You know what he was quoting right?
Oh the psalms he was wuoting
No
Tell me
I've already quoted you, it's a prayer regarding suffering, in no way is it about the abandonment by the Father, he was again drawing parallels from himself as the messiah in the old testament anachronistically to the Jews.
```they have pierced my hands and feet , they have numbered all my bones```
Furthermore, do you think only God can truly send the Holy Spirit?
```John 14:16
[16]And I will ask the Father: and he shall give you another Paraclete, that he may abide with you for ever:```
In that Christ asks the Father to send him?