Message from @Maksim

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2020-02-03 18:02:45 UTC  

i mean sexually

2020-02-03 18:02:52 UTC  

yes thats what i mean

2020-02-03 18:03:04 UTC  

you cant do anything sexually there are limits there as well

2020-02-03 18:03:34 UTC  

i'm gonna go eat. still don't see how you can explain the practice of "pleasure marriage" with this

2020-02-03 18:03:42 UTC  

feel free to type it out and i'll answer later

2020-02-03 18:04:15 UTC  

god created us with certain desires, wether its food, or loving to have property, or children, or being attracted to women

2020-02-03 18:04:48 UTC  

the only reason i have to being married is so i dont fall into fornication. your wife would be the halal way to fulfill the desire

2020-02-03 18:05:16 UTC  

@Deleted User You don't think that sex is meant purely for reproduction in a marriage?

2020-02-03 18:05:19 UTC  

this life isnt the real life, its just a test for what happense next

2020-02-03 18:05:27 UTC  

Sex is not about pleasure, and never should be

2020-02-03 18:05:28 UTC  

no its not @Maksim

2020-02-03 18:05:53 UTC  

sex is about pleasure as well

2020-02-03 18:05:59 UTC  

I disagree

2020-02-03 18:06:07 UTC  

your understanding is wrong then

2020-02-03 18:06:12 UTC  

Pleasure is a motivation of the flesh

2020-02-03 18:06:15 UTC  

We should reject it

2020-02-03 18:06:22 UTC  

who gave you flesh

2020-02-03 18:06:27 UTC  

What we lose here we gain 10 fold in heaven

2020-02-03 18:06:30 UTC  

who put that motivation in you

2020-02-03 18:06:44 UTC  

God created us perfect, but Adam and Eve sinned

2020-02-03 18:06:53 UTC  

Giving us the want for pleasure

2020-02-03 18:07:03 UTC  

God did not give us the want for pleasure

2020-02-03 18:07:06 UTC  

Satan did

2020-02-03 18:07:21 UTC  

you think too highly of satan

2020-02-03 18:07:38 UTC  

I don’t think the use of pleasure to mitigate suffering is the appropriate approach the everyday Man should face life with, and much to my chagrin, it often is the case.

2020-02-03 18:07:41 UTC  

Satan influenced Eve to sin, and Eve influenced Adam to sin

2020-02-03 18:07:48 UTC  

God commanded us to not eat from the tree

2020-02-03 18:07:51 UTC  

Yet they did

2020-02-03 18:07:58 UTC  

the quran said they both sinned, doesnt say who did it first

2020-02-03 18:07:58 UTC  

Because of Satan

2020-02-03 18:08:06 UTC  

Eve sinned first

2020-02-03 18:08:13 UTC  

She then for Adam to sin

2020-02-03 18:08:17 UTC  

Adam was resistant at first

2020-02-03 18:08:29 UTC  

This is why God commands that the woman is below the man

2020-02-03 18:08:39 UTC  

And why they must be controlled

2020-02-03 18:08:47 UTC  

Because they will always try to draw their men to sin

2020-02-03 18:08:50 UTC  

Such as with sex

2020-02-03 18:08:52 UTC  

@Deleted User because the moment you rely on pleasures to affirm your life, is the moment you willingly allow your happiness to be contingent on the material and not spiritual, on the ephemeral. This is the path of the hedonist, and the willing slave.

2020-02-03 18:09:16 UTC  

@Ater Votum you are mixing up

2020-02-03 18:09:28 UTC  

what is the meaning of life to you exactly?

2020-02-03 18:09:43 UTC  

Mind