i'll let you take over if you really want

Middle of a class, you're good

I'll watch from here on out

no im not uncomfortable, its just that points get lost when i respond to many people

its happened before

didn't mean that in a belittling tone

go on abdul

you will not find a single instance where the prophet was after wordly things like you claim

he didnt die a rich man, and didnt pass power to his children

i claim he was demonically influenced. he doesn't have to express every single sin to be demonically influenced

how do you explain something like the satanic verses?

what part of the doctrine is against what you believe is good?

wouldnt a doctrine from satan praise selfishness and immorality?

well of course, rejection of the divinity of Christ, and a corruption of the meaning of sin

in islamic theology sin is simply a deed, there's no deeper spirituality behind it

a sin is when you go against the commandments of god

as you explaind with your opinion on muhammad and his wives

and muslims and their wives generally

you can act out any disgusting perversions with your wife

but because she is by law your wife, this makes it not sin

no you cant do anything you want with your wife

i mean sexually

yes thats what i mean

you cant do anything sexually there are limits there as well

i'm gonna go eat. still don't see how you can explain the practice of "pleasure marriage" with this

feel free to type it out and i'll answer later

god created us with certain desires, wether its food, or loving to have property, or children, or being attracted to women

the only reason i have to being married is so i dont fall into fornication. your wife would be the halal way to fulfill the desire

@Deleted User You don't think that sex is meant purely for reproduction in a marriage?

this life isnt the real life, its just a test for what happense next

Sex is not about pleasure, and never should be

no its not @Maksim

sex is about pleasure as well

I disagree

your understanding is wrong then

Pleasure is a motivation of the flesh

We should reject it

who gave you flesh

What we lose here we gain 10 fold in heaven

who put that motivation in you

God created us perfect, but Adam and Eve sinned