Message from @Maksim

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2020-02-03 17:53:57 UTC  

the prophets weren't perfect men, like muhammad supposedly is

2020-02-03 17:54:06 UTC  

@Draško did the prophet die a rich man?

2020-02-03 17:54:11 UTC  

solomon had like a thousand wives, but this isn't a good thing

2020-02-03 17:54:17 UTC  

you keep switching arguments here

2020-02-03 17:54:21 UTC  

this is the second time

2020-02-03 17:54:50 UTC  

no im not youre saying hes changing the doctrine to satisfy himself. this would mean hes a liar, thief, immoral untrustworthy etc

2020-02-03 17:54:59 UTC  

so you have to be consistent

2020-02-03 17:55:14 UTC  

i don't know exactly how rich he was when he died

2020-02-03 17:55:17 UTC  

did he die a rich man? if that was his aim

2020-02-03 17:55:35 UTC  

no he died with no money

2020-02-03 17:55:37 UTC  

@Draško The ends don't necessarily justifying the means

2020-02-03 17:55:48 UTC  

At times

2020-02-03 17:55:58 UTC  

what exactly are you responding to

2020-02-03 17:56:03 UTC  

he even said prophets dont put down inhertiance

2020-02-03 17:56:05 UTC  

Telling you what to say

2020-02-03 17:56:38 UTC  

@Deleted User 1000 good deeds do not erase 1 bad deed

2020-02-03 17:56:52 UTC  

if abdullah is uncomfortable with this being a 2v1, i think we should respect him

2020-02-03 17:56:55 UTC  

i will respond to you after

2020-02-03 17:56:56 UTC  

i'll let you take over if you really want

2020-02-03 17:57:09 UTC  

Middle of a class, you're good

2020-02-03 17:57:17 UTC  

I'll watch from here on out

2020-02-03 17:57:22 UTC  

no im not uncomfortable, its just that points get lost when i respond to many people

2020-02-03 17:57:26 UTC  

its happened before

2020-02-03 17:57:48 UTC  

didn't mean that in a belittling tone

2020-02-03 17:57:53 UTC  

go on abdul

2020-02-03 17:58:37 UTC  

you will not find a single instance where the prophet was after wordly things like you claim

2020-02-03 17:58:50 UTC  

he didnt die a rich man, and didnt pass power to his children

2020-02-03 18:00:16 UTC  

i claim he was demonically influenced. he doesn't have to express every single sin to be demonically influenced

2020-02-03 18:00:23 UTC  

how do you explain something like the satanic verses?

2020-02-03 18:00:40 UTC  

what part of the doctrine is against what you believe is good?

2020-02-03 18:00:59 UTC  

wouldnt a doctrine from satan praise selfishness and immorality?

2020-02-03 18:01:10 UTC  

well of course, rejection of the divinity of Christ, and a corruption of the meaning of sin

2020-02-03 18:01:27 UTC  

in islamic theology sin is simply a deed, there's no deeper spirituality behind it

2020-02-03 18:01:46 UTC  

a sin is when you go against the commandments of god

2020-02-03 18:01:48 UTC  

as you explaind with your opinion on muhammad and his wives

2020-02-03 18:01:59 UTC  

and muslims and their wives generally

2020-02-03 18:02:11 UTC  

you can act out any disgusting perversions with your wife

2020-02-03 18:02:22 UTC  

but because she is by law your wife, this makes it not sin

2020-02-03 18:02:37 UTC  

no you cant do anything you want with your wife

2020-02-03 18:02:45 UTC  

i mean sexually

2020-02-03 18:02:52 UTC  

yes thats what i mean