Message from @Izzy
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Atomwaffen and associated groups have nothing to do with the message of Siege which is to get your shit in order and drop out of the System so it falls apart that much quicker and if you're going to do something, which you shouldn't, you should run and hit, not hit and run, in all things have a plan to get out of dodge, always have a network of people you can rely on if the heat gets put on you for some reason, either by your own doing or by political persecution
09A Satanists are as bad as Jews, the Fascist movement needs another Night of the Long Knives
Is agorism anything similar to siege
Dunno, never heard of it
The fascist movements need to be completely eradicated.
Agorism is counter economics. You trade everything in the black market to deprive the state of revenue.
It's typically advocated by ancaps
@Koninos democracy is a symptom of a large population (middle class)
In smaller groups, there are leaders who arrive where they are by means of merit, guile or strength ( of various types)
Democracy is so open to exploitation, decadence and apathy
But i suppose it is the worst form of government, except for all the OTHER forms of government
Democracy can work without the middle class. All Democracy needs is the people which make up the state, for without the people, the state cannot exist - while the people can exist without the state. However, existing without the state, which would be Anarchy, is a merely stupid concept. Therefore, there's a need for a system where the state exists, but is managed by the ones who make it up - for that is what is just and moral.
On the contrary, in Fascism, Monarchism and other Authoritarian Ideologies, the people are called to put their faith into a ruler, who has almost unlimited control over them, and can very often be unwise and unfit to rule. And here comes the question, who should decide who's fit and unfit to rule? And the answer to this question is, the people. Also, Democracy is the least corrupt form of government. And yet, there's no proof of Democracy being open to expiration or decadence or apathy. @Ater Votum
democracies only work when they are mixed with technocracies and become crypto totalitarian states or when there are no outside or inside problems
the needs of people are quite simple, security both socially and physically, it dosent take a genius to see what must be done to solve societies problems. Hence why the rulers should actually be able to solve the problems of the society
Individual freedom is only attainable and desirable when there are no urgent problems that threaten the nation as a whole. If these threats exist, a society focused on personal freedoms cannot deal with them, and will either fall or become authoritarian
democracy is a stupid ass concept
might as well have students vote for their teachers
Y'know i like voting for presidents but dumbasses like us on the internet shouldn't vote
a voter has his own self interests when voting, and that sounds like a reasonable thing until you look at it in practice
completely polarizes society and nobody give no fucks about each other but their own voter group
old farts will vote for anyone that makes their pensions higher, boomers will vote for anyone that isn't going to endanger their current wealth
1) Democracies always work, unless the Government is corrupt. What many people like to do, is to blame democracy for their country's problems, while they should be blaming the Government(s) they elected.
2) Solving these problems isn't as simple as you would like it to be, nor as simple as you think it is. No ruler in human history has ever been able to solve all problems of the society. Therefore, for these problems to be solved, the society needs a leader who can actually do their job. And here comes the question, who knows if they can do their job correctly? The answer to this question, is the SOCIETY, because it is it which has to deal with social problems. And what is society made up of? The people. Therefore the people should elecr their leaders.
3) Individual Freedom should always be attainable, but could also be restrained when it threatens the nation - but that's under extreme circumstances that we yet haven't witnessed.
@Draško Letting students vote for their teachers is a democratic procedure, but no Democratic system has ever done that.
The example you gave is purposefully full of flaws.
of course, i'm making an analogy as to how silly democracy is
when a voter votes, he doesn't have the best interest of society in his mind
only his own self interest
The analogy is false.
it is a bit of a stretch i'll be fair but you see the same line of thinking in voting for the president
I have to get to class, I'll get to you soon
if you gave the students the right to vote for their teacher, they'd vote for the one that gives the highest grade for the least bit of work
voters in a democracy think along the same principles, they don't care about the survival of the state or the people inside it.
if there was a candidate that promised to give all hobos housing and food for life at the expense of the rich i can bet you every single hobo would vote for him
@Koninos you realize that democracy isn't democratic, right? There is no way to best represent the will of the people when you have two factions that are loyal more to donors than they are to the People because every x number of years there's a peaceful revolution (election) that destroys the progress that was made under one side of the kosher sandwich
Serious political discussion is intellectual masturbation. Embrace retardation as the only serious way forward
Before you say this is a shitpost, I’m being 100% serious