Message from @moira
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if we multiply that with the price of the housing in that time we can find out that it's actually cheaper overall than the current pricing of housing if adjusted for inflation
Ah you never mentioned you were adjusting for inflation
That clears it up
Thought that should be logical enough by itself
The tweet made it sound like it was inflation adjusted
I dont get how people can be proud of their nation history
its more fun that you actually are proud of something that you personally put effort into, that something that you did nothing to.
Being proud of a country's history is equal to being proud of its weather
It's a characteristic of the country that you actually didn't make, or even participate, in its making
unless you're an historically important figure, which your probably not, since no one's never fuckin read about you.
And my weather analogy is perfectly logical, since the differences between "races" people heavily sperg about and autism over are more related to weather than anything else
most people that aren't proud of their country can't really grasp being proud of their country
the people that made the country did so having in their mind that you'd have the same mentality as them and do the same thing
like not the country as a polity, but the nation
to me at least, nationalism isn't really an ego boost for myself, but more of an ideal of how members of a single society should work off of each other
I have nothing to be proud of.
Thats good
then do something for your nation that you can be proud of
strive for that
"my country can do no wrong every other country is worse my country should rule the world we are the only ones who do everything correctly" to me that seems irrational
"I'm proud of something I had no control of, being born a citizen of my country"
this one is not as irrational, but still
I would definitely go against my nation, But that's because I do not care about irrational bullshit
If a country does wrong, it's not something to strive for
which takes us to the irrational part
"my country can do no wrong"
"and if it somehow did, I must justify it"
which is total bullshit tbh
"my people" dont give a shit about me
For the most part.
There are a lot of "my people" who really don't give a shit.
Your perception of "unless you're a historically important figure" is wrong. The development of a nation history is not given itself on the individualistic history of important figures, but in the larger scope of things related to normal day life and/or the actions that wouldn't be possible without large groups. For example, armies are collectivists groups; as they different ramifications (for example artillery, infantry, cavarly), all work together for a achieving a goal. Another example, would be economical history; like the development of guild and agrarian communties which established together an estructural economy. Is the participation of different members, or parts, of a society in the development and modeling of a nation state.
You're right probably
in a way
*In a way*
You're right that the common bloke is part of history, but the common bloke had no relation to the history *before* his time
Which was most of my point
Wydm by "before his time"?
That `In a way` was supposed to be connected to the next phrase, not the previous
nationalism is about rejecting the concept of "his time", it's our time