Message from @Lettow

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2020-02-23 16:18:28 UTC  

Yeah that is true.

2020-02-23 16:18:39 UTC  

Thanks

2020-02-23 16:18:45 UTC  

If not, I decide to find studies by their name in Google, since most of the time they mentione other studies to further study.

2020-02-23 16:18:49 UTC  

I'm actually surprised about how you know this

2020-02-23 16:19:40 UTC  

This was also double edged btw

2020-02-23 16:20:39 UTC  

The Mexican government promoted the idea of "mestizaje" in all of the nation, adhering to the idea that Mexicans are a product of mixing between Spaniards and Natives

2020-02-23 16:20:59 UTC  

This means that even 100% Europeans or 100% Natives identify as "mestizo" in mexico sometimes

2020-02-23 16:21:09 UTC  

Being the default

2020-02-23 16:21:17 UTC  

It's mostly a cultural denomination

2020-02-23 16:24:41 UTC  

Still to make it clear, I'm not assuming that there is no difference in races, which in fact they do, but when we take racial PERCEPTIONS we reach a very different scope from simple biological studies.

2020-02-23 16:26:01 UTC  

Still I'm investigating, so I would not consider myself expert on the subject, maning I don't propose any course of action to it.

2020-02-23 16:27:43 UTC  

You can keep your race bs to yourself

2020-02-23 16:28:33 UTC  

there are differences in races bro

2020-02-23 16:28:36 UTC  

Ok <:wtf:591182282648190986>

2020-02-23 16:30:32 UTC  

So, Uh

2020-02-23 16:30:46 UTC  

You have to be concise

2020-02-23 16:30:50 UTC  

👏

2020-02-23 16:33:42 UTC  

Wdm by "concise"?

2020-02-23 16:38:26 UTC  

eh, whatever.

2020-02-23 16:43:58 UTC  

Okay so segregation in a multi racial country being natural is bullshit

2020-02-23 16:49:28 UTC  

I never implied segregation, but, funnily enough, that is something common in Mexico.

2020-02-23 16:50:18 UTC  

At least according by P Monkkonen (2012).

2020-02-23 16:50:26 UTC  

I am interested, could you elaborate?

2020-02-23 16:51:27 UTC  

Technically racism protects cultural identities, it's just unbecoming when it's projected on others.

2020-02-23 16:52:12 UTC  

I can't speak for Mexico since they were a separate unit of the Spanish Empire from the start, and having the US as neighbor has to spice up things too

2020-02-23 16:53:54 UTC  

I find that hypothesis kind of bizarre since De Soto stayed in Illinois over a decade. Shouldn't Illinois be native and Spanish population?

2020-02-23 16:54:58 UTC  

what hypothesis?

2020-02-23 16:55:17 UTC  

About mexico

2020-02-23 16:55:38 UTC  

?

2020-02-23 16:55:53 UTC  

Sure. Acording to him, mostly, in urban areas in there have been a rise in the diacrimination and marginalization agaisn't other racial groups, mainly indians done by the general population. @moira

2020-02-23 16:56:03 UTC  

The conquistadors left Central and south America after pillaging it looking for the fabled El Dorado

2020-02-23 16:56:48 UTC  

He also, mentioned other studies, which I haven't read, containing that these marginalizatin is acutally increasing in countries like Argentina, Chile and Brazil.

2020-02-23 16:57:00 UTC  

Let me see if I can translate something rf.

2020-02-23 16:59:48 UTC  

@SavvyPun The thing is, after the new lands were discovered, the definitive draft of the territories was, North of Panama governed through Mexico, South governed through Lima

2020-02-23 17:00:16 UTC  

Of course, the La Plata and New Granada viceroyalties eventually split from the Peru one

2020-02-23 17:00:24 UTC  

@Lettow could be

2020-02-23 17:00:30 UTC  

They were mostly abandoned in the search for El Dorado

2020-02-23 17:00:43 UTC  

This isn't phenotype based, though, is it

2020-02-23 17:01:26 UTC  

A person with native parents can be a mestizo if it adopts mainstream mexican culture

2020-02-23 17:01:41 UTC  

I'd need dna evidence. Fact is the conquistadors murdered millions upon millions for petty treasures.

2020-02-23 17:05:24 UTC  

I'm part native and even then most natives won't talk to me. There's just not many of them left.