So you're asking me to use a situation where idealism is true to argue the falsity of idealism

Well then I can't because it's true in that situation

No, I'm asking for an argument against idealism, in which one of the propositions of such argument doesn't presuppose the truth value of your conclusion

Oh

Is serious spelled right

Yes

I'm having a stroke

It doesn't look right

Well I can't think like that right now @Sentient23

Let me rephrase it again in mathematical terms

I've got ideas floating in my head but

No no

I get you

I'm dismissing idealism with the mindset of idealism being already dismissed

I can't think right now

Proposition X

Argument for proposition X: Y, Z, and D

Argument for statements in the argument for proposition X: Y is true because X

alright

I get you though

Your logic is strong

Although I still gotta prove your logic too

I'm gonna go to the shops I'll be back

Alright, ill go to bed right now anyway

perhaps we can continue debating idealism another time

Interesting

Are you an idealist?

Or an idealist out of process of elimination ( due to lack of existance of a refutal )

lol human nature argument

@NotBrott Nothing beats first principles and basic truths

<#684129050951942224> for other serious convos

Are you the owner? @Maksim

If it's not active enough we'll remove it, it's just to see if there is enough traffic to even support 2 serious channels

@Ｒｉｃｈａｒｄ Ｗａｇｎｅｒ Why

Just asking

Not unless it matters

Many feds

That's why I wanted to make a suggestion to the owner to put a channel to put books and files in general, but forget it, it's already here.

i personally am not a idealist

im a dualist

;-!

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