Message from @valencia/Vaida

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2020-03-09 18:08:27 UTC  

and I don't see it as mistake

2020-03-09 18:09:12 UTC  

Israel did some great things

2020-03-09 18:09:25 UTC  

Look I don't find the idea of giving Jews a land to stay in bad, but the way they massacred countless of Palestinians, because they wanted to get their land, is disgusting.

2020-03-09 18:09:49 UTC  

Nowadays Israel is more of a pro-Fascism state, which takes advantage of the support it is being given by the West.

2020-03-09 18:10:23 UTC  

how they are fascist? arabs can vote, arabs can work

2020-03-09 18:10:33 UTC  

and they are voting

2020-03-09 18:10:39 UTC  

I don't mean literally fascist.

2020-03-09 18:10:50 UTC  

so what do you mean by that?

2020-03-09 18:11:34 UTC  

He means it's a convenient way to disparage people he doesn't like.

2020-03-09 18:12:06 UTC  

Knowing him yes

2020-03-09 18:12:06 UTC  

I mean it more metaphorically, like, Israel's policies being the same with some Fascist policies. Like expansionism, ultranationalism, one people one state policy, and so on.

2020-03-09 18:12:33 UTC  

@Florida Man Do not attempt to defame me, if you want to make a claim, then provide proof.

2020-03-09 18:12:47 UTC  

NOT that the Israelis are innocent of any wrongdoing. But personally I'd rather the entire area be under Israeli rule than Palestinian rule.

2020-03-09 18:12:58 UTC  

@Koninos Yo, did you just delete something he said ?

2020-03-09 18:13:26 UTC  

Nope, check the logs.

2020-03-09 18:13:30 UTC  

He deleted it himself.

2020-03-09 18:13:38 UTC  

ok listen it's your opinion but U.S.A and Israel and others tried to make a plan and those arabs always said no. @Koninos

2020-03-09 18:13:48 UTC  

@DylansIQ Why would they say yes?

2020-03-09 18:13:49 UTC  

@Koninos Want me to get Gogglez?

2020-03-09 18:14:00 UTC  

@Florida Man Want you to get screenshots and other forms of proof.

2020-03-09 18:14:09 UTC  

I have nothing against the people of Israel

2020-03-09 18:14:20 UTC  

@Koninos I did... "ok based i support israel now"

2020-03-09 18:14:34 UTC  

Yes, he said that, so?

2020-03-09 18:14:53 UTC  

@Sentient23 So you should support your argument.

2020-03-09 18:15:45 UTC  

when the UN gived the plan of the two states to two cultures in 1947 the jews didn't had problem with that but the arabs started to have war because they didn't like that there would be a country for jews @Koninos

2020-03-09 18:17:06 UTC  

@DylansIQ Yes, because they were triggered by how Israel literally stole the land that belonged to them. Personally I don't like Palestine either, and both sides are extremely evil, yet the Palestinians were the ones who were treated extremely unfairly.

2020-03-09 18:17:41 UTC  

The Arabs didn't oppose the formation of Israel in general... They opposed the formation of Israel in the land that they owned.

2020-03-09 18:17:56 UTC  

listen the UN wanted to give a state to jews because of the war world 2

2020-03-09 18:18:30 UTC  

and they choose Israel because technically Jews came from Israel in history

2020-03-09 18:19:03 UTC  

Yeah okay, and most Europeans originated from India, does that give them a claim on India?

2020-03-09 18:19:10 UTC  

@Koninos Of the two, Israel is more stable and capable of the creation of a secular state under.

2020-03-09 18:19:27 UTC  

If it can’t be both, it should be Israel.

2020-03-09 18:19:37 UTC  

True.

2020-03-09 18:19:42 UTC  

bro it's fake thing what you said @Koninos I said some fact

2020-03-09 18:19:55 UTC  

Jews actually came from Israel

2020-03-09 18:19:57 UTC  

Yet again, there are many other solutions than an one state.

2020-03-09 18:20:07 UTC  

True

2020-03-09 18:20:14 UTC  

@DylansIQ How is it a fake thing?

2020-03-09 18:20:31 UTC  

that Europens came from India?

2020-03-09 18:20:34 UTC  

Indoeuropeans are a thing. Most Europeans came from India.

2020-03-09 18:20:55 UTC  

That doesn't give the right to UN to give India to the Europeans.