Message from @Koninos
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I have nothing against the people of Israel
Yes, he said that, so?
@Sentient23 So you should support your argument.
when the UN gived the plan of the two states to two cultures in 1947 the jews didn't had problem with that but the arabs started to have war because they didn't like that there would be a country for jews @Koninos
@DylansIQ Yes, because they were triggered by how Israel literally stole the land that belonged to them. Personally I don't like Palestine either, and both sides are extremely evil, yet the Palestinians were the ones who were treated extremely unfairly.
The Arabs didn't oppose the formation of Israel in general... They opposed the formation of Israel in the land that they owned.
listen the UN wanted to give a state to jews because of the war world 2
and they choose Israel because technically Jews came from Israel in history
Yeah okay, and most Europeans originated from India, does that give them a claim on India?
@Koninos Of the two, Israel is more stable and capable of the creation of a secular state under.
If it can’t be both, it should be Israel.
True.
Jews actually came from Israel
Yet again, there are many other solutions than an one state.
True
that Europens came from India?
Indoeuropeans are a thing. Most Europeans came from India.
Something something ***aryan intensifies***
My point is, the UN had no right to steal Palestinian land and cede it to the Jews.
how did they steal it there was some jews there and then it was keeping growing
Honestly, it’s just a cycle of abuse spanning back millennia.
Was the land under Palestinian rule? Yes.
The land was Palestinian, regardless of the population of the land.
no it wasn't British was control Israel
Therefore, the UN stole that land.
Yeah that British province was called Palestine for a reason.
And was governed by Arab officials.
That land should be Palestine. And it was illegal what the UN did in 1948
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To put the issue in a kindergartener-like nutshell, it’s a debate of whether the Jews get dibs or the Palestinians can call no-takebacks
wait so you saying there should be only Palestine @valencia/Vaida
I personally disagree with ceding Israel to Palestine in 2020, since that would cause another conflict, and more violence.
They were there long before Israel
But what the UN did in 1948 was illegal indeed.
but Jews were more longer @valencia/Vaida listen I wouldn't have problem if there would be two states
but not for now the Palestines don't deserve a country in 2020
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