Message from @valencia/Vaida

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2020-03-09 18:13:38 UTC  

ok listen it's your opinion but U.S.A and Israel and others tried to make a plan and those arabs always said no. @Koninos

2020-03-09 18:13:48 UTC  

@DylansIQ Why would they say yes?

2020-03-09 18:13:49 UTC  

@Koninos Want me to get Gogglez?

2020-03-09 18:14:00 UTC  

@Florida Man Want you to get screenshots and other forms of proof.

2020-03-09 18:14:09 UTC  

I have nothing against the people of Israel

2020-03-09 18:14:20 UTC  

@Koninos I did... "ok based i support israel now"

2020-03-09 18:14:34 UTC  

Yes, he said that, so?

2020-03-09 18:14:53 UTC  

@Sentient23 So you should support your argument.

2020-03-09 18:15:45 UTC  

when the UN gived the plan of the two states to two cultures in 1947 the jews didn't had problem with that but the arabs started to have war because they didn't like that there would be a country for jews @Koninos

2020-03-09 18:17:06 UTC  

@DylansIQ Yes, because they were triggered by how Israel literally stole the land that belonged to them. Personally I don't like Palestine either, and both sides are extremely evil, yet the Palestinians were the ones who were treated extremely unfairly.

2020-03-09 18:17:41 UTC  

The Arabs didn't oppose the formation of Israel in general... They opposed the formation of Israel in the land that they owned.

2020-03-09 18:17:56 UTC  

listen the UN wanted to give a state to jews because of the war world 2

2020-03-09 18:18:30 UTC  

and they choose Israel because technically Jews came from Israel in history

2020-03-09 18:19:03 UTC  

Yeah okay, and most Europeans originated from India, does that give them a claim on India?

2020-03-09 18:19:10 UTC  

@Koninos Of the two, Israel is more stable and capable of the creation of a secular state under.

2020-03-09 18:19:27 UTC  

If it can’t be both, it should be Israel.

2020-03-09 18:19:37 UTC  

True.

2020-03-09 18:19:42 UTC  

bro it's fake thing what you said @Koninos I said some fact

2020-03-09 18:19:55 UTC  

Jews actually came from Israel

2020-03-09 18:19:57 UTC  

Yet again, there are many other solutions than an one state.

2020-03-09 18:20:07 UTC  

True

2020-03-09 18:20:14 UTC  

@DylansIQ How is it a fake thing?

2020-03-09 18:20:31 UTC  

that Europens came from India?

2020-03-09 18:20:34 UTC  

Indoeuropeans are a thing. Most Europeans came from India.

2020-03-09 18:20:55 UTC  

That doesn't give the right to UN to give India to the Europeans.

2020-03-09 18:21:03 UTC  

Something something ***aryan intensifies***

2020-03-09 18:21:15 UTC  

My point is, the UN had no right to steal Palestinian land and cede it to the Jews.

2020-03-09 18:21:46 UTC  

how did they steal it there was some jews there and then it was keeping growing

2020-03-09 18:21:57 UTC  

Honestly, it’s just a cycle of abuse spanning back millennia.

2020-03-09 18:22:05 UTC  

Was the land under Palestinian rule? Yes.

2020-03-09 18:22:23 UTC  

The land was Palestinian, regardless of the population of the land.

2020-03-09 18:22:29 UTC  

no it wasn't British was control Israel

2020-03-09 18:22:29 UTC  

Therefore, the UN stole that land.

2020-03-09 18:22:50 UTC  

Yeah that British province was called Palestine for a reason.

2020-03-09 18:22:57 UTC  

And was governed by Arab officials.

2020-03-09 18:23:22 UTC  

That land should be Palestine. And it was illegal what the UN did in 1948

2020-03-09 18:23:41 UTC  

^

2020-03-09 18:23:52 UTC  

To put the issue in a kindergartener-like nutshell, it’s a debate of whether the Jews get dibs or the Palestinians can call no-takebacks

2020-03-09 18:24:04 UTC  

wait so you saying there should be only Palestine @valencia/Vaida

2020-03-09 18:24:41 UTC  

I personally disagree with ceding Israel to Palestine in 2020, since that would cause another conflict, and more violence.

2020-03-09 18:24:46 UTC  

They were there long before Israel