Now in terms of excess, excessive materialism is very bad

hey guys what do you think about Israel?

Gross.

Israel was a mistake

Not because it's made up of Jews -because that's why most people in here hate Israel- but because of the trouble it is.

why gross?

listen Jews came from Israel in history it says

and I don't see it as mistake

Israel did some great things

Look I don't find the idea of giving Jews a land to stay in bad, but the way they massacred countless of Palestinians, because they wanted to get their land, is disgusting.

Nowadays Israel is more of a pro-Fascism state, which takes advantage of the support it is being given by the West.

how they are fascist? arabs can vote, arabs can work

and they are voting

I don't mean literally fascist.

so what do you mean by that?

He means it's a convenient way to disparage people he doesn't like.

Knowing him yes

I mean it more metaphorically, like, Israel's policies being the same with some Fascist policies. Like expansionism, ultranationalism, one people one state policy, and so on.

@Florida Man Do not attempt to defame me, if you want to make a claim, then provide proof.

NOT that the Israelis are innocent of any wrongdoing. But personally I'd rather the entire area be under Israeli rule than Palestinian rule.

@Koninos Yo, did you just delete something he said ?

Nope, check the logs.

He deleted it himself.

ok listen it's your opinion but U.S.A and Israel and others tried to make a plan and those arabs always said no. @Koninos

@DylansIQ Why would they say yes?

@Koninos Want me to get Gogglez?

@Florida Man Want you to get screenshots and other forms of proof.

I have nothing against the people of Israel

@Koninos I did... "ok based i support israel now"

Yes, he said that, so?

@Sentient23 So you should support your argument.

when the UN gived the plan of the two states to two cultures in 1947 the jews didn't had problem with that but the arabs started to have war because they didn't like that there would be a country for jews @Koninos

@DylansIQ Yes, because they were triggered by how Israel literally stole the land that belonged to them. Personally I don't like Palestine either, and both sides are extremely evil, yet the Palestinians were the ones who were treated extremely unfairly.

The Arabs didn't oppose the formation of Israel in general... They opposed the formation of Israel in the land that they owned.

listen the UN wanted to give a state to jews because of the war world 2

and they choose Israel because technically Jews came from Israel in history

Yeah okay, and most Europeans originated from India, does that give them a claim on India?

@Koninos Of the two, Israel is more stable and capable of the creation of a secular state under.

If it can’t be both, it should be Israel.

True.

bro it's fake thing what you said @Koninos I said some fact