Message from @Eno

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2020-01-25 02:30:11 UTC  

Moment also first link dosent work

2020-01-25 02:30:14 UTC  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/04/20/hitler-hated-judaism-he-loathed-christianity-too/?utm_term=.ca2d6cc0e2fd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#cite_note-Bundle5-2

“Hitler wished that the Ottoman Empire had conquered Vienna in 1683: "The Mohammedan religion
would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity
with its meekness and flabbiness?"

-Albert Speer (1 April 1997). Inside the Third Reich: memoirs. Simon and Schuster. pp. 96
https://books.google.com/books?id=XLSa_RIDHMUC&pg=PA96#v=onepage&q&f=false

2020-01-25 02:30:24 UTC  

Well the third bit

2020-01-25 02:30:33 UTC  

Other two are also interesting

2020-01-25 02:30:36 UTC  

Gentile, Mussolini, Hitler all hated christianity although Mussolini utilized the church for political gain

2020-01-25 02:30:42 UTC  

Hitler did too to an extent

2020-01-25 02:30:53 UTC  

Mussolini was anti Christian too?

2020-01-25 02:31:07 UTC  

he utilized the vatican for political gain but yeah

2020-01-25 02:31:16 UTC  

Until he tried to gain favour with the pope

2020-01-25 02:31:18 UTC  

I never paid much attention to him because Hitler overshadows him so much

2020-01-25 02:31:22 UTC  

most of the Italian fascists hated christianity especially Marinetti

2020-01-25 02:31:53 UTC  

@Doktor Goon yeah that was cause of how connected italian society was with the vatican

2020-01-25 02:31:57 UTC  

Well it's not like mussolini is terribly interesting

2020-01-25 02:31:58 UTC  

he would of been an idiot not to

2020-01-25 02:32:25 UTC  

I mean he started the fascist movement so I felt I should read up on him somewhat

2020-01-25 02:32:26 UTC  

His son is a prominent jazz musician

2020-01-25 02:32:27 UTC  

<:mussolini:415920205139673109> mussolini da man

2020-01-25 02:32:41 UTC  

@Flash read up on Gentile rather than Mussolini then

2020-01-25 02:32:58 UTC  

Gentile really started the fascist movement and gave a philosophical basis for it

2020-01-25 02:33:00 UTC  

He helped write a lot of Mussolini’s stuff right?

2020-01-25 02:33:17 UTC  

he ghost wrote part of one his books yes

2020-01-25 02:33:23 UTC  

but he wrote a lot of his own material

2020-01-25 02:33:41 UTC  

Origins and Doctrines of Fascism was written by him and is IMO the best introduction to fascist thought

2020-01-25 02:34:06 UTC  

The first fascist book I read was the political and social doctrine of fascism by Mussolini

2020-01-25 02:34:13 UTC  

But I’ll try and check out that

2020-01-25 02:34:54 UTC  

if you are interested in learning about the philosophical base of it then i'd recommend The Theory of Mind as Pure Act also by Gentile

2020-01-25 02:36:35 UTC  

@EseWoods welcome

2020-01-25 02:36:55 UTC  

Welcome

2020-01-25 02:37:15 UTC  

Shalom

2020-01-25 02:37:16 UTC  

I have a decent set of fascist books I’m still working through, same with communists

2020-01-25 02:37:50 UTC  

Marx is incredibly important. I encourage every fascist to try get through Das Kapital

2020-01-25 02:38:17 UTC  

I haven’t had time to even consider Das Kapital but I’ve read the communist manifesto

2020-01-25 02:38:21 UTC  

Also I’m not fascist

2020-01-25 02:38:29 UTC  

yeah i know

2020-01-25 02:38:53 UTC  

the manifesto is alright, introduces you to a few concepts but its really just a propaganda pamphlet

2020-01-25 02:39:15 UTC  

I found it funny how Marx accuses capitalism of “downing the ecstasies of religious fervor” in the manifesto and then turns around later and calls religion the opium of the people

2020-01-25 02:41:41 UTC  

I'd say those two statements don't contridict each other

2020-01-25 02:42:16 UTC  

He set himself up to be pro religion at first and then made it known he was anti religious

2020-01-25 02:43:38 UTC  

what

2020-01-25 02:43:49 UTC  

"opium of the people" isnt an anti religious quote

2020-01-25 02:43:55 UTC  

thats a misinterpretation