Message from @LadyAquanine
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what changed?
Well, even as a rightist, I was always critical of capitalism from the start
I used to believe in the more reformist sects of capitalism, to ensure that it benefits all and not just the business owner
but I was always discriminated by my fellow brethren for that
as well as the nonsense of some right-wingers made me question my values
plus, I delved more and studied more about socialist thought
beware that there is a Siren buried in there
she has murdered many on the rocks of reality
siren?
you've never heard of sirens?
the mythical kind?
the ancient Greeks believed in a type of supernatural creature called a Siren, who had a bird's body and a woman's head
they lived on rocky islands in the Aegean Sea, and sung beautiful songs that lured sailors to their doom
the sailors would be mesmerized by the songs, and forget what direction their ships were going, and eventually the ships would be destroyed on the rocks of the islands the sirens lived on
later depictions of Sirens made them resemble mermaids
they still sang that lethal song and lured men to dash their ships on the rocks, though
in the Odyssey, Ulysses had his crew tie him to the main mast of his ship and plug their ears with beeswax so they could steer the ship safely past the islands of the Sirens, and at the same time, he could listen to their song without consequences
so there are forms of socialism that lure people in, but once they have it, they regret it later
sometimes to their doom
for some reason the term Siren was later used for alarm sounds 🤔
That’s an awesome recap @LadyAquanine thanks 👍
socialism is not based in luring people in, such a system would be unsustainable and have no vitality
it depends on the will of the people whether they want socialism or not.
It “lures people in” in the sense that people want fair compensation for their labor and reliably cheap and accessible healthcare
I oughtta type in what the Naked Communist book says
it's very eye-opening
and don't let the title fool you
it's not a commie porno book
Damn that sounds hot
I wanna see Stalin's big red sickle
I know, but it's a reason people want socialism, so that the healthcare system can be socialized
then these people don't know what socialism is, at very best their advocating for social democracy/democratic policies
yes, socialism provides welfare but in modern society its only social democracy which takes a key role in developing these policies
Dunno why you're drawing the distinction, all I said was socialism is a means to accessible healthcare, which it is.
Your point is also true, but doesn't in any way contradict what I said, but still felt like a rebuttal to what I said.
because I feel like comparing social democratic policies to socialism is somwhat of a stretch although similar in a few aspects
I really hate Mexicans
most socialists don't really support social democracy, they think its a tool to lull the working class to sleep and not actually solve their problems fully
I agree, we need to get rid of the Mexicans.