Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-01-14 22:50:20 UTC  

Austrians have it right

2019-01-15 01:55:57 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ I know we disagree on a lot of stuff but you'd really like this study http://borisnikolaev.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Economic-Freedom-and-Quality-of-Life.pdf basically goes into much greater depth about the data behind the graph you posted earlier, with the same result

2019-01-15 08:03:18 UTC  

Damn that’s huge

2019-01-15 10:26:52 UTC  

I agree with it tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/534679860442955777/image0.jpg

2019-01-15 10:27:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/534679972476878848/image0.jpg

2019-01-15 14:27:53 UTC  

@Neco2040 Ocasio Cortez raising taxes to 70% would cause a crash

2019-01-15 14:28:11 UTC  

Not to mention it’s never been as high as she says

2019-01-15 14:28:29 UTC  

(90%)

2019-01-15 14:29:04 UTC  

wtf I love Ocasio Cortez now

2019-01-15 14:47:19 UTC  

The highest tax rate ever in the United States has been 45%

2019-01-15 14:47:29 UTC  

for personal income tax , top marginal rate

2019-01-15 14:47:39 UTC  

This was the effective tax rate when it was 91% marginal.

2019-01-15 14:47:54 UTC  

For people earning over $3,400,000 inflation adjusted

2019-01-15 15:48:28 UTC  

Yes she wants to do that also, her 70% tax would be a marginal tax for people earning over 10 million a year

2019-01-15 16:10:03 UTC  

Why would you compare a 45% “effective” rate to a 70% marginal rate

2019-01-15 16:10:23 UTC  

It makes more sense to compare the 70% marginal rate to the highest of 94% marginal

2019-01-15 16:52:04 UTC  

@Leo (BillNyeLand) that’s not the point

2019-01-15 16:52:09 UTC  

70% is the top@marginal rate

2019-01-15 16:52:23 UTC  

It makes no difference if that percent isn’t the actual rate being taxed

2019-01-15 16:53:03 UTC  

For example there was a 90% tax rate in 1955 however the effective tax rate was 45%

2019-01-15 16:53:31 UTC  

@chad 10 million?

2019-01-15 16:53:34 UTC  

Where does it say that

2019-01-15 16:55:07 UTC  

It doesn’t matter how high the tax rate is if the effective tax rate is much lower. With these tax rates , most of the taxation was avoided.

2019-01-15 16:55:36 UTC  

That’s why we have such a lower 45% rate.

2019-01-15 17:01:58 UTC  

Oh it is 10 million, however that would be impossible to collect through tax avoidance. So the burden will shift back on the middle class and below

2019-01-15 17:02:11 UTC  

Sounds like a disaster to me and the green new deal is a disaster in itself

2019-01-15 17:02:47 UTC  

Wait how did u find that, I remember I read an article about it like a month ago but forgot where I read it now I can’t find it 😦

2019-01-15 17:08:06 UTC  

@chad about wut

2019-01-15 17:08:25 UTC  

If you mean the 10 million, the guardian

2019-01-15 17:18:09 UTC  

They compare an effective 45% tax rate to a 70% marginal rate because they have nothing better to criticize. It is dishonest, but the lowest common denominator will never figure that out.

2019-01-15 17:22:36 UTC  

Thanks

2019-01-15 17:39:08 UTC  

Yet you’re still comparing a 70% marginal rate to a 45% effective rate on a 90% marginal rate. If your logic carries over, the effective tax rate should be about half 70%, or 35%

2019-01-15 17:44:50 UTC  

@BaneOfThots No I'm saying even as high as 90%, the effective tax rate was 45%

2019-01-15 17:45:05 UTC  

So shouldn’t 70% be even less of a problem

2019-01-15 17:45:07 UTC  

Nobidy denied that

2019-01-15 17:45:18 UTC  

(70% marginal)

2019-01-15 17:45:32 UTC  

What do you mean a problem

2019-01-15 17:45:39 UTC  

I'm just saying theres never been a tax rate higher than 45%

2019-01-15 17:46:12 UTC  

Not an effective tax rate

2019-01-15 17:46:18 UTC  

But a marginal tax rate, yes

2019-01-15 17:46:25 UTC  

Marginal is irrelevant then