Message from @Toro

Discord ID: 534824111596109865


2019-01-15 19:56:41 UTC  

I was hoping he would do that as well

2019-01-15 19:57:12 UTC  

Are you familiar with the concept of "observing yourself"

2019-01-15 19:57:17 UTC  

as in

2019-01-15 19:57:25 UTC  

observing your mannerisms and flaws?

2019-01-15 19:57:33 UTC  

trying to get an unbiased view of yourself

2019-01-15 19:57:35 UTC  

I try doing that often

2019-01-15 19:57:51 UTC  

as in analyzing your own thought processes and stuff, as they occur

2019-01-15 19:58:01 UTC  

yeah I guess I do that often

2019-01-15 19:58:21 UTC  

whenever I start getting emotional I try to tone it down that way

2019-01-15 19:58:35 UTC  

wow I used to do that too yeah

2019-01-15 19:58:46 UTC  

and I have a flaw of being very impulsive so when I get an impulse and am about to act on it I start thinking about it

2019-01-15 19:58:47 UTC  

don't do that so much it's actually bad for you in the long run

2019-01-15 19:58:58 UTC  

ok

2019-01-15 19:59:10 UTC  

With faith my situation is a bitweird

2019-01-15 19:59:13 UTC  

I am an atheist

2019-01-15 19:59:16 UTC  

have always been one

2019-01-15 19:59:27 UTC  

my parents are agnostic (but they do not know the meaning of agnostic)

2019-01-15 19:59:31 UTC  

claim to be agnostic*

2019-01-15 19:59:42 UTC  

they say they believe in god but dislike religion

2019-01-15 19:59:54 UTC  

they're often quite spiritual or study 'energies'

2019-01-15 20:00:04 UTC  

hmm

2019-01-15 20:00:19 UTC  

whenever I try to debate them they say it's too heavy a topic

2019-01-15 20:00:55 UTC  

my parents typically dont like abstract topics and I like them a lot, so I often don't get to really hear their views and adapt my argument

2019-01-15 20:01:01 UTC  

If you want to talk about that stuff with them, don't come at them too strongly

2019-01-15 20:01:20 UTC  

yeah my parents often get mad that I keep arguing when someone upset

2019-01-15 20:01:33 UTC  

they tend to be more focused on feelings while I am focused on a logical conclusion

2019-01-15 20:01:59 UTC  

anyways so most kids my age get their ideology from their parents

2019-01-15 20:02:22 UTC  

around my age or a little older some strart to rebel and have conflicting view points just for the sake of conflicting view points

2019-01-15 20:02:39 UTC  

Your parents are grappling with their innate spirituality, or desire for higher purpose, without the support that they need from organized religion. I don't blame them for rejecting the churches either, they have become skewed and amoral in the recent decades especially

2019-01-15 20:02:58 UTC  

very well put

2019-01-15 20:03:28 UTC  

I had a friend in high school who I would debate religion with

2019-01-15 20:04:06 UTC  

I couldn't grasp the concept of believing in something that should not exist according to worldly logic

2019-01-15 20:05:11 UTC  

I think the best way to describe it to myself back then would be that one can make a conscious choice to believe in something immaterial in order to accomplish some material end.

2019-01-15 20:06:13 UTC  

like embracing some measured amount of insanity in order to escape the nihilistic pull of pure logic

2019-01-15 20:06:19 UTC  

it's the beginning of the end for Trump

2019-01-15 20:06:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/534825700545527809/ICZ-XnozPQb_Q_fogOq3kzIBzW5uUqewoohf4AIu3UY.jpg

2019-01-15 20:10:07 UTC  

He can't do anything right

2019-01-15 20:10:25 UTC  

He bought loads of people free lunch and they get mad at him

2019-01-15 20:10:32 UTC  

Yet if Obama did it he would be amazing

2019-01-15 20:12:49 UTC  

ok this is bad