That was the hard part for me as well, since I was raised as an atheist and am highly logical

but faith can be derived from reason if you succeed in splitting your psyche into different levels

faith can be justified as a "dominant strategy" like you see in game theory

Damn, I'm not good enough at typing to respond in half a paragraph when you keep following a rabbit hole lmao

and you can also derive personal morality from your most basic aesthetic preferences

gotta type fast my guy

brb

elaborate on 'splitting your psyche'

I was hoping he would do that as well

Are you familiar with the concept of "observing yourself"

as in

observing your mannerisms and flaws?

trying to get an unbiased view of yourself

I try doing that often

as in analyzing your own thought processes and stuff, as they occur

yeah I guess I do that often

whenever I start getting emotional I try to tone it down that way

wow I used to do that too yeah

and I have a flaw of being very impulsive so when I get an impulse and am about to act on it I start thinking about it

don't do that so much it's actually bad for you in the long run

ok

With faith my situation is a bitweird

I am an atheist

have always been one

my parents are agnostic (but they do not know the meaning of agnostic)

claim to be agnostic*

they say they believe in god but dislike religion

they're often quite spiritual or study 'energies'

hmm

whenever I try to debate them they say it's too heavy a topic

my parents typically dont like abstract topics and I like them a lot, so I often don't get to really hear their views and adapt my argument

If you want to talk about that stuff with them, don't come at them too strongly

yeah my parents often get mad that I keep arguing when someone upset

they tend to be more focused on feelings while I am focused on a logical conclusion

anyways so most kids my age get their ideology from their parents

around my age or a little older some strart to rebel and have conflicting view points just for the sake of conflicting view points

Your parents are grappling with their innate spirituality, or desire for higher purpose, without the support that they need from organized religion. I don't blame them for rejecting the churches either, they have become skewed and amoral in the recent decades especially

very well put

I had a friend in high school who I would debate religion with

I couldn't grasp the concept of believing in something that should not exist according to worldly logic

I think the best way to describe it to myself back then would be that one can make a conscious choice to believe in something immaterial in order to accomplish some material end.