Message from @Alix
Discord ID: 497913632219201537
just discuss this *super* important stuff
You know you two go at it, I'll talk when you're done
2 totally different subjects here
ok yeah we want to avoid authoritarianism and losing money to inefficiency right
I'm guessing that's what you mean by tyranny
not necessarily inefficiency but due to large government spending more money the bigger they get requireing more taxes
forgive my spelling btw
ya same haha
I think that liberals don't want a bloated government
I don't think anybody does
right there
And if they do... I disagree with them
correction
yea?
Liberals in the modern sense do want a big government, to do just about everything, classical liberal is something you are more akin to, something center and more right
I try to avoid labels and stick to specifics, but you can consider me whatever you want
Don't get a leftist and a liberal confused, a true liberal would be Republican
But I think there's a difference between a big government and a government that is too large to function efficiently, financially. What are programs that you think shouldn't exist via the government?
modern liberals - leftists
NSA
Yeah don't really care about labels they seem unnecessary to individual conversations
FBI CIA
So federal crimes shouldn't be investigated?
or... just shouldn't exist I guess?
and more controversially the federal bank or whatever which controls currency
Wait so you want an unregulated currency and no federal protection from crime?
federal crimes are a thing in a sense but should not be in such a big org as they are
just wait for that
ok so you're really saying that the FBI, CIA, and NSA are too big for what they should be
and could be smaller, but not nonexistant?
federal currency was still a thing before the current whatever is in place, it was backed by silver and gold, nowadays it's backed by nothing
CIA Gone
FBI much smaller and more elite and efficient
NSA gone
unless national crisis in which case highly limited capacity
Would you be concerned that foreign governments would try to fuck with various parts of our country without these institutions?
And it would be hard to re-make an institution quickly in response to something... that seems remarkably inefficient
I know they would try, but in such a case that things like the CIA would simply not go over seas, they would work purely on our shores unless needed otherwise to protect our soil
I agree
also reforming an institution such as the NSA is far quicker than you might expect, getting to a highly efficient cost per dollar is another thing