There is "sort off" @bandit

So then I would say capitalism because I haven't seen a good application of socialism that has lasted long enough

Nah, not even sort of

I could only think of one idleogy which could find somewhat of a compromise

Socialism is the collective controlling the means of production
Capitalism is private ownership of the means of production

You can't have an inbetween

Market socialism is the eh

But no private property exists in market socialism lol

Yeah

So it's still socialism

Yes, but in a free market and not a centrally planned one lol

Yeah but well I don't see that as something that matters bigly

Well that's what socialists find a problem though

I would think by the 50s and 60s we would have developed the technology necessary to develop central planning

And gradually phase out the market, if we transition to socialism in the near future.

This is the only lifetime for socialism to develop, we have no time left.

Maybe

If socialism would be demonstrated to work well on the long time I would imediatly abandon capitalist

It did work in the Soviet Union post Stalin to the late 70s.

It was all ruined by brezhnevs policies

Yuri andropov was the last hope of saving the Union.

Socialism is certainly feasible now with 21st century technology tbh.

I mean yeah, but it didn't work better then capitalism in western europe

It obviously lagged behind, comparing the Soviet Union to the west is like comparing apples to oranges

By the tide of the century the Russian empire was still agrarian and rural.

Whereas the German empire and the UK industrialised long ago.

Still, they caught up very fast, just 40 years after the Russian revolution they launched the first satellite into space.

I know

life expectancy even went down

after the USSR collapsed

and didnt get to the same level until something like 2004

True.

Socialism shall return someday.

What does everyone think of Roe v wade

it's the devil

Horrible

Ban the Supreme Court

I think that people shouldn't have the right to kill living things but I don't think the government shouldn't force them to follow that rule.

hi

@Crasseus are you going to explain why

why reform the NSA? @Alix