Message from @Leiro レイロ
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I mean, I don't think there is a middle ground
Either capitalism or socialism
So then I would say capitalism because I haven't seen a good application of socialism that has lasted long enough
Nah, not even sort of
I could only think of one idleogy which could find somewhat of a compromise
Socialism is the collective controlling the means of production
Capitalism is private ownership of the means of production
You can't have an inbetween
Market socialism is the eh
But no private property exists in market socialism lol
Yeah
So it's still socialism
Yes, but in a free market and not a centrally planned one lol
Yeah but well I don't see that as something that matters bigly
Well that's what socialists find a problem though
I would think by the 50s and 60s we would have developed the technology necessary to develop central planning
And gradually phase out the market, if we transition to socialism in the near future.
This is the only lifetime for socialism to develop, we have no time left.
Maybe
If socialism would be demonstrated to work well on the long time I would imediatly abandon capitalist
It was all ruined by brezhnevs policies
Yuri andropov was the last hope of saving the Union.
Socialism is certainly feasible now with 21st century technology tbh.
I mean yeah, but it didn't work better then capitalism in western europe
It obviously lagged behind, comparing the Soviet Union to the west is like comparing apples to oranges
By the tide of the century the Russian empire was still agrarian and rural.
Whereas the German empire and the UK industrialised long ago.
Still, they caught up very fast, just 40 years after the Russian revolution they launched the first satellite into space.
I know
life expectancy even went down
after the USSR collapsed
and didnt get to the same level until something like 2004
True.
Socialism shall return someday.
What does everyone think of Roe v wade
it's the devil
Horrible
Ban the Supreme Court
I think that people shouldn't have the right to kill living things but I don't think the government shouldn't force them to follow that rule.
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