well ideally

legal power of what?

socialism is democracy at its purest

the people decide what they want, not some ceo or a bureaucratic elite

You know personally thats why i dont like it, Americas good as a republic, its a republic not a democracy. People like being a CEO, having legal roles of importance, reputation, and a benefit of money. Nothing wrong in it

What I mean by legal power, well not illegal power - such as a Mobster Don lol

Pelosi should resign to save the Democrat party.

there isnt, a ceo can offshore jobs, because capitalism at its purest and empirical form is a economic system run on logic and mathematics, not for the general good of the people

ceo, importance, they would be incidental really

when we achieve post scarcity

Well its human nature

not incidental

Really want everybody to be cooped up, basically having no importance, a representative, distinction. People arent gonna want it, I guarantee it

the human nature argument is one of the most fallacious I have heard, there's a important distinction between human nature and human behaviour

Socialism bets against human nature. Capitalism relies on it.

when you have this dog-eat-dog attitude to chase for profits obviously people are going to be greedy

@Fere Nemo no, it's a fallacious argument

Read Peter kropotkin

***reads book***

nope

***comes back a week later***

he clearly shows how humans can work together for the general good without the idea of a profit motive, this is clearly classed by him

sounds like a nice idea, on paper lol

***o wait, where have I seen this before***

when you cultivate people to contribute idea to work for the general good, people will be more inclined to be less inclined to be bother with profit and the betterment of society, that isn't the case today because we have this dog-eat-dog nature

Humians MIGHT work togather for the common good, but they MIGHT just as well camair rouge. Historically, it favors camair rouge.

no, it depends on societal norms and behaviour, if you have that behaviour instilled in you your much less likely

it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of how and when

but in a sense it does lower opportunity

Sure. but I'll roll my dice for capitalism.

admit or not, it does

no, you would have greater opportunities under socialism lol

its on you whether you say it matters

Greater opportunities you say

you depend on your own capital under capitalism to demonstrate your innovation, under socialism you don't need your own capital, the state or the people will accommodate you with industrial power and information

and if your business fails, you don't carry a huge load of debt you can't pay off

hell you wouldnt even have a business to begin with

not business really, new ideas and innovation

at most you would own a very small business under socialism

Look. I think either system would work if people would do their jobs; it's just that they wont, and capitalism is more tolerant of deviants.

seems pretty limited to me