Message from @TheBestGangster

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2018-11-07 08:06:38 UTC  

Clinton supports imperialism anyway

2018-11-07 08:07:04 UTC  

@TheBestGangster you would have ample opportunities under socialism, do you mean running a business or coming up with new ideas?

2018-11-07 08:07:10 UTC  

There we go.

2018-11-07 08:07:25 UTC  

Running a business? Running an empire and making a million a day

2018-11-07 08:07:40 UTC  

If I were a democrat, I'd want a new SotH. Pelosi is a total burn-out.

2018-11-07 08:07:45 UTC  

Well, there are two ways you can produce profit.

2018-11-07 08:07:49 UTC  

one is extracting surplus value

2018-11-07 08:07:57 UTC  

I'll DM you Le

2018-11-07 08:07:59 UTC  

another is selling a given commodity at a higher price

2018-11-07 08:08:03 UTC  
2018-11-07 08:08:34 UTC  

Yet another way to produce profit is by armed robbery.

2018-11-07 08:08:41 UTC  

heh heh

2018-11-07 08:08:53 UTC  

the government already does that

2018-11-07 08:08:57 UTC  

eventually, being a millionaire it would incidental under socialism, because you would enjoy most amenities and cheaply made consumer goods if not free, so there's no real reason to love as a millionaire if you enjoy the comforts of life and have access to materialism

2018-11-07 08:09:38 UTC  

It's gong to be sad watching Pelosi battle senility in public.

2018-11-07 08:10:34 UTC  

Except for power, capitalism is basically legal power. Nothing wrong in it, unfortunately such cannot be achieved in socialism. That's also why a lot of people dont want it

2018-11-07 08:10:58 UTC  

well ideally

2018-11-07 08:11:00 UTC  

legal power of what?

2018-11-07 08:11:09 UTC  

socialism is democracy at its purest

2018-11-07 08:11:25 UTC  

the people decide what they want, not some ceo or a bureaucratic elite

2018-11-07 08:13:31 UTC  

You know personally thats why i dont like it, Americas good as a republic, its a republic not a democracy. People like being a CEO, having legal roles of importance, reputation, and a benefit of money. Nothing wrong in it

2018-11-07 08:13:56 UTC  

What I mean by legal power, well not illegal power - such as a Mobster Don lol

2018-11-07 08:14:15 UTC  

Pelosi should resign to save the Democrat party.

2018-11-07 08:14:17 UTC  

there isnt, a ceo can offshore jobs, because capitalism at its purest and empirical form is a economic system run on logic and mathematics, not for the general good of the people

2018-11-07 08:14:36 UTC  

ceo, importance, they would be incidental really

2018-11-07 08:14:46 UTC  

when we achieve post scarcity

2018-11-07 08:15:18 UTC  

Well its human nature

2018-11-07 08:15:23 UTC  

not incidental

2018-11-07 08:16:11 UTC  

Really want everybody to be cooped up, basically having no importance, a representative, distinction. People arent gonna want it, I guarantee it

2018-11-07 08:16:17 UTC  

the human nature argument is one of the most fallacious I have heard, there's a important distinction between human nature and human behaviour

2018-11-07 08:16:47 UTC  

Socialism bets against human nature. Capitalism relies on it.

2018-11-07 08:16:49 UTC  

when you have this dog-eat-dog attitude to chase for profits obviously people are going to be greedy

2018-11-07 08:17:01 UTC  

@Fere Nemo no, it's a fallacious argument

2018-11-07 08:17:04 UTC  

Read Peter kropotkin

2018-11-07 08:17:23 UTC  

***reads book***

2018-11-07 08:17:26 UTC  

nope

2018-11-07 08:17:32 UTC  

***comes back a week later***

2018-11-07 08:17:38 UTC  

he clearly shows how humans can work together for the general good without the idea of a profit motive, this is clearly classed by him

2018-11-07 08:17:49 UTC  

sounds like a nice idea, on paper lol

2018-11-07 08:18:21 UTC  

***o wait, where have I seen this before***

2018-11-07 08:18:32 UTC  

when you cultivate people to contribute idea to work for the general good, people will be more inclined to be less inclined to be bother with profit and the betterment of society, that isn't the case today because we have this dog-eat-dog nature