Message from @Donaldus Triumphus

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2018-12-04 22:52:56 UTC  
2018-12-04 23:08:52 UTC  

Gender dysphoria doesn’t ease it. It’s a debilitating mental problem. It makes actual trans people kill themselves every year. It’s like an exaggerated depression.

2018-12-04 23:09:26 UTC  

Not the stupid trans people “non binary” and all that stupid shit

2018-12-04 23:12:30 UTC  

You’re talking about the stupid ‘trans’ people. The people who identify with zim and all that shit. That’s not trans.

2018-12-04 23:13:46 UTC  

Children shouldn’t adopt the ideology, children should adopt ideologies like straight and gay until they find out who they are for themselves.

2018-12-04 23:16:35 UTC  

Those "trans" people are what ruin the transgender reputation.

2018-12-04 23:22:03 UTC  

Yup

2018-12-04 23:32:07 UTC  

You say "gender and sex are synonymous" and then say "who cares about the meaning of words [...] Me" which is a ridiculous contradiction that's easily identified by googling what gender and sex mean, respectively. They are different. To think they are synonymous is only possibly by forcing your own definition, which makes this whole conversation impossible. Accepting trans people (who have been around for centuries) is not indulging sick people, it's showing compassion. You are not being kind by trying to prevent what you think is mutilation, because it's actually just you misunderstanding the needs of certain people who don't identify with their genitalia, and want to get safe surgery to help them feel comfortable in their own bodies. The common thread that includes your desire to not use their preferred pronouns is indifference towards their feelings in lieu of what you consider to be "normal," or reasonable. You should think about other people, including trans people, and how you could help them. I don't think any psychiatrist would agree with you that you can help them by refusing to call them by terms they appreciate, and by advocating the suppression of their culture and plight.

2018-12-04 23:32:15 UTC  
2018-12-04 23:32:49 UTC  

@Cay I did not say gender dysmorphia eases anything. I said that changing your situation to one that you identify with better eases gender dysmorphia

2018-12-04 23:33:04 UTC  

ah excuse me, gender dysphoria

2018-12-05 00:02:09 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ The guy did not dislike Trump because of what he's been doing. He just doesn't like the way the Republican party has been going. Although that's not anything abnormal, the guy needs to grow a pair and realize that Trump isn't held at the certain expectations as other politicians because Trump doesn't have to rely his employment on politics. Trump's got balls and can say things other politicians can't

2018-12-05 00:02:42 UTC  

Which is one of the big things that outshine the guy

2018-12-05 00:03:22 UTC  

compared to other Republican candidates, a lot of other Republican politicians also don't have the balls to do/say some things. The guy just isn't used to the drastic adaptation

2018-12-05 00:05:25 UTC  

Frankly anyone can be formal or "presidential"

2018-12-05 00:05:52 UTC  

anyone can be, many aren't

2018-12-05 00:06:46 UTC  

That's because they don't have to, they aren't bound by the restrictions

2018-12-05 00:07:16 UTC  

There's never been the restriction, just the recommendation

2018-12-05 00:07:36 UTC  

you are always allowed to be a jerk, the question is should you?

2018-12-05 00:09:07 UTC  

Well let me put it this way, anyone before Trump could've ran like him - however it just wouldn't work. Trump's got the resources and it doesn't matter if gets in. Other politicians, that is their main source of employment. Their job and income relies on it, they have to be formal and can't risk it

2018-12-05 00:09:46 UTC  

Trump was not a politician, remember that.

2018-12-05 00:10:04 UTC  

He picked it up as a hobby within a year lol

2018-12-05 00:10:18 UTC  

and winged it

2018-12-05 00:11:33 UTC  

I mean, no, he's ran for president before, he's been involved in politics for a while

2018-12-05 00:12:06 UTC  

but you're right that it's arguably a positive to have a president unbeholden to typical political requirements. No issue there

2018-12-05 00:12:43 UTC  

Business is correlated heavily with politics, frankly everything is related to politics. However, I'm trying to say Trump was not an actual politician, not official

2018-12-05 00:12:54 UTC  

I think you know what I'm getting at

2018-12-05 00:13:20 UTC  

totally, it's just very incorrect to say "he picked it up as a hobby within a year" because he's been politically active since the 90s

2018-12-05 00:13:32 UTC  

but he's not a career politician if that's what you mean

2018-12-05 00:17:41 UTC  

You can't really say politically active, he did run once in 1999 and ended it because he thought the party was too dysfunctional at the time. Although, he's still not held to the limits. If he was a normal politician he would not have dropped out like that

2018-12-05 00:20:51 UTC  

The definition of a hobby is an activity done regularly, that wasn't a regular thing. It was very offset between the years he's been politically active

2018-12-05 00:21:02 UTC  

In a sense, he did pick it up as a hobby within a year

2018-12-05 00:28:36 UTC  

@wahx
Via google:
**Gender**, the state of being male or female.
**Sex**, either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

What do you mean by "accepting trans people"? I accept that some people claim to be the sex/gender that they are not and some of those people then want to mutilate their genitalia into a non-functioning approximation of those belonging to the opposite sex/gender. I accept that reality. What further than this am I required to do lest I be uncompassionate? I think I want what is best for these people by not encouraging their mental illness and clinical mutilation. This is especially true of minors. Psychiatry is not a science and I don't respect it as such. There is not even verification that one's brain functions in a different way before they diagnose a person with gender dysmorphia or whatever the diagnosis is. A person claims to feel a certain way and that's it. They might as well self-diagnose. What percentage of trans people actually have abnormal brains? No one cares, you just send them down a pre-approved path with little consideration. Our society, rather than looking on these people with the pity they deserve, think they are brave. I'm sorry, a man is not a woman. A person with a penis is not a woman. A person who has inverted their penis is not a woman. They might be "trans", but they are distinct from a woman. Words have meanings, they are a trans man. Not a woman or a trans woman. TERFs are right to make the distinction.

2018-12-05 01:00:54 UTC  

@Anon365 Yeah sure but if you want to continue the guns and death debate with Ven, go ahead

2018-12-05 01:01:16 UTC  

As long as it gets moved here. I'm on the clock right now, maybe next time

2018-12-05 01:01:31 UTC  

he seems to have disappeared

2018-12-05 01:01:39 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-12-05 01:01:58 UTC  

Well guess it can be left to be picked up on, but right now I have to do something

2018-12-05 01:02:03 UTC  

I'll be back in a few, I always am

2018-12-05 01:27:54 UTC  

ok

2018-12-05 01:52:28 UTC  

TRUMP???