they oppose it because they think it should've been done sooner

that's what im getting out of that

Might have to re read it then. My point is that it’s completely irrelevant whether or not they oppose it... it’s not the republicans turn to dictate the starting of a budget

Especially for something unpopular

uh?

you okay buddy

I’m a little hungry why you ask

you're saying that because the democrats control the house they get to do whatever they want with the budget

the entire point of that is for them to propose a budget and then everyone agrees/disagrees with it

and the republicans think that a wall should be included in the budget

Right, senate republicans disagree with it

yes

so they send it back to the house

asking for a wall addition

and they wont add it

so no agreement is reached

Why are they asking for a wall addition now though?

And why not 2 years ago

im sure there's some reason

Yeah?

im not an expert on american government

but im sure if they could've they would've

Because it *seems* like they’re doing it to see what they can get away with with a democratic house

They 100% could have

It would have been very easy

so you're saying

that the republicans intentionally shut down the govt just to see what would happen

when the dems control the house

Well, it’s a bit more complicated than that because of Trump

Because Republicans don’t necessarily want to lose their support back home right? And their supporters like Trump so they need to do what Trump wants right

So suddenly, Trump demands that a wall needs to be a part of the budget, which he didn’t do the first two years with the same intensity as he is now

He’s always wNted it but now it’s much more serious and constant messaging about it from him. Example: the recent speech he gave on cable

I mean I agree that they should've done it when we had full control

So setting aside why he suddenly needs it, it’s clear that he switched something where now it’s “necessary,” and now his supporters see that, so the senate thinks that too know

but I still think there's got to be some reason as to why they didn't

Well I can’t wait for this reason to come out haha

same

I mean you could be 100% right

it just doesn't seem logical

but if they weren't opposed to the wall then why are they so opposed now?

the democrats used to care about border security