if you build a wall there will be more visa overstays

or if you fix the visa overstays

more crossings

Just have satellite lasers to vaporize any illegals crossing the border

What? These are different things. You’re confused, you have to get in legally to be a visa overstay. If you could do that, there’s no reason to come illegally. But you wouldn’t not come if you got a visa, and I’m not saying to reduce visa numbers, just visa overstay ability

thats literally my point

Lmao we need more lasers in general

But my point is that reducing visa overstays does not affect illegal immigration

Laser guns

They’re from Europe! They can’t get back illegally lmao

It would probably have *an* effect, but only a very *small* effect

Ok im probably just not saying what I mean correctly

True Visitor

Because visa overstayers and illegal border crossers tend to be very different people

true

Exactly. And one is cheaper to deal with

my point is just

if you make visa overstaying harder more people are likely to try it and just go for the border crossing

or if you make the crossing harder more people will go for the visa overstay

But they’re already in the states haha

And they can’t get visas if they’re crossing illegally lol

oh my fucking god

how do you not understand

They’re fundamentally different people dude

Almost by definition

okay

It seems to me that the number of people who would switch from border crossing to visa overstay (or vice versa) would be pretty small compared to the number of people who would do so anyway

i've lost all determination in this argument

i concede

If you’re a visa overstay then it was literally *never possible* to cross illegally

i dont care anymore

Lmao

like im making my point as clear as i can

and you're just talking about something else

It seems like you guys are debating different things

No dude your point makes no sense. Oh a Mexican encountered a wall? He’ll just get a visa! Why didn’t he think of that first lmao

@Leo (BillNyeLand) lol

thats why i just dont care anymore

Oh a Spanish dude got deported for a visa overstay! He’ll just cross illegally then... over the ocean

im just gonna go play games with my friends

you're both retarded