Message from @Kylo Ren

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2019-01-23 01:43:44 UTC  

That sounds unnecessary and hard to manage at best

2019-01-23 01:43:58 UTC  

I do not approve

2019-01-23 01:44:43 UTC  

Even me, a libgay, thinks that’s too much government in the economy

2019-01-23 01:51:24 UTC  

A nation with a planned economy is good.

2019-01-23 01:51:31 UTC  

Everything is planned out.

2019-01-23 01:51:47 UTC  

The government I think should own all major corporations and companies.

2019-01-23 01:51:56 UTC  

While the small ones are government funded and supported.

2019-01-23 01:52:56 UTC  

No

2019-01-23 01:52:58 UTC  

not at all

2019-01-23 01:53:22 UTC  

Giving the government total control of the economy is a terrible idea and it never works

2019-01-23 01:53:31 UTC  

it has failed every single time

2019-01-23 01:53:45 UTC  

Not every time.

2019-01-23 01:54:02 UTC  

if you can name one time its succeeded I can name three times its fail

2019-01-23 01:54:05 UTC  

*failed

2019-01-23 01:54:13 UTC  

Dang good point there.

2019-01-23 01:54:21 UTC  

But if skilled people manage the economy.

2019-01-23 01:55:00 UTC  

The only time I can say the government having control of the economy worked is China

2019-01-23 01:55:13 UTC  

Yes.

2019-01-23 01:55:37 UTC  

And The PRC is a world industrial power, strongest military power, the giant of Asia.

2019-01-23 01:55:59 UTC  

It's also corrupt as hell and essentially a dystopia

2019-01-23 01:56:04 UTC  

But it has failed in so many other places

2019-01-23 01:56:07 UTC  

its a terrible system

2019-01-23 01:56:10 UTC  

and doesn't work

2019-01-23 01:56:16 UTC  

that's a fact

2019-01-23 01:57:05 UTC  

You can try and spin it all you want, but Communism fails. Socialism fails and will fail as well. Putting democratic in front of a word doesn't change it.

2019-01-23 01:58:42 UTC  

The only reason government control failed is because that people who cannot manage it were implaced.

2019-01-23 01:58:50 UTC  

Its not just that

2019-01-23 01:59:07 UTC  

The people become too dependent on the government

2019-01-23 01:59:43 UTC  

Capitalism works because the people have to work for what they want, and trade is voluntary.

2019-01-23 02:00:11 UTC  

Communism and socialism fail because it goes by a "You have what I want, so give it to me" stance.

2019-01-23 02:00:31 UTC  

and people just become dependent on the government.

2019-01-23 02:00:45 UTC  

Very true.

2019-01-23 02:01:00 UTC  

If you let socialists get elected, people will be lazy, the economy will fail.

2019-01-23 02:01:39 UTC  

That's why even though Bernie Sanders is supported by most millennials, he will never be elected because the majority of Americans see how bad Socialism is.

2019-01-23 02:02:06 UTC  

You want to raise the minimum wage? Everyone will stay at the bottom because they're happy about their earnings, you have to work your way up there, and taxing the rich is ridiculous, I'm not going to start from the bottom and go to the top just to get taxed, I'll just stay at the bottom with low taxes and a high minimum wage.

2019-01-23 02:02:30 UTC  

Raising the minimum wage will cause unemployment to spike up

2019-01-23 02:02:43 UTC  

when McDonalds was forced to increase it, they just hired robots

2019-01-23 02:02:49 UTC  

Everyone should want to become rich, so they have to work for that.

2019-01-23 02:03:13 UTC  

Minimum wage is no skill work. You have nothing skillful to offer, therefore you are working a basic job at a basic wage.

2019-01-23 02:03:16 UTC  

its completely fair

2019-01-23 02:04:00 UTC  

A guy who flips burgers at McDonalds should NOT be making as much as some college degree requiring jobs.