Message from @Kylo Ren

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2019-01-23 01:55:00 UTC  

The only time I can say the government having control of the economy worked is China

2019-01-23 01:55:13 UTC  

Yes.

2019-01-23 01:55:37 UTC  

And The PRC is a world industrial power, strongest military power, the giant of Asia.

2019-01-23 01:55:59 UTC  

It's also corrupt as hell and essentially a dystopia

2019-01-23 01:56:04 UTC  

But it has failed in so many other places

2019-01-23 01:56:07 UTC  

its a terrible system

2019-01-23 01:56:10 UTC  

and doesn't work

2019-01-23 01:56:16 UTC  

that's a fact

2019-01-23 01:57:05 UTC  

You can try and spin it all you want, but Communism fails. Socialism fails and will fail as well. Putting democratic in front of a word doesn't change it.

2019-01-23 01:58:42 UTC  

The only reason government control failed is because that people who cannot manage it were implaced.

2019-01-23 01:58:50 UTC  

Its not just that

2019-01-23 01:59:07 UTC  

The people become too dependent on the government

2019-01-23 01:59:43 UTC  

Capitalism works because the people have to work for what they want, and trade is voluntary.

2019-01-23 02:00:11 UTC  

Communism and socialism fail because it goes by a "You have what I want, so give it to me" stance.

2019-01-23 02:00:31 UTC  

and people just become dependent on the government.

2019-01-23 02:00:45 UTC  

Very true.

2019-01-23 02:01:00 UTC  

If you let socialists get elected, people will be lazy, the economy will fail.

2019-01-23 02:01:39 UTC  

That's why even though Bernie Sanders is supported by most millennials, he will never be elected because the majority of Americans see how bad Socialism is.

2019-01-23 02:02:06 UTC  

You want to raise the minimum wage? Everyone will stay at the bottom because they're happy about their earnings, you have to work your way up there, and taxing the rich is ridiculous, I'm not going to start from the bottom and go to the top just to get taxed, I'll just stay at the bottom with low taxes and a high minimum wage.

2019-01-23 02:02:30 UTC  

Raising the minimum wage will cause unemployment to spike up

2019-01-23 02:02:43 UTC  

when McDonalds was forced to increase it, they just hired robots

2019-01-23 02:02:49 UTC  

Everyone should want to become rich, so they have to work for that.

2019-01-23 02:03:13 UTC  

Minimum wage is no skill work. You have nothing skillful to offer, therefore you are working a basic job at a basic wage.

2019-01-23 02:03:16 UTC  

its completely fair

2019-01-23 02:04:00 UTC  

A guy who flips burgers at McDonalds should NOT be making as much as some college degree requiring jobs.

2019-01-23 02:05:09 UTC  

Also people like AOC and sanders are retarded for wanting to tax the rich a ridiculous amount. If you tax the rich too much they will just leave the country.

2019-01-23 02:05:13 UTC  

then you get nothing from them

2019-01-23 02:05:58 UTC  

And your economy will die, the rich need to stay rich for an economy to succeed.

2019-01-23 02:06:08 UTC  

yep

2019-01-23 02:06:23 UTC  

The upper class makes the middle class and the middle class makes the upper class

2019-01-23 02:06:38 UTC  

take one away, the other is destroyed

2019-01-23 02:06:55 UTC  

But of course, every uneducated person thinks raising the minimum wage is just more money.

2019-01-23 02:07:33 UTC  

Leftists want socialists to be elected so they can live off the government and all work at starting jobs.

2019-01-23 02:07:50 UTC  

There would be no point in going anywhere in life if there's low taxes and a good paying minimum wage.

2019-01-23 02:08:00 UTC  

No point in going rich cause of high taxes.

2019-01-23 02:10:30 UTC  

They are lazi.

2019-01-23 02:10:32 UTC  

lazy*

2019-01-23 02:33:57 UTC  

That’s not very true

2019-01-23 02:35:07 UTC  

I mean, if your $50M annual income was reduced to $30M after taxes, would you *really* just say “screw it, I’ll get a minimum wage job instead”?

2019-01-23 02:35:19 UTC  

No, you’d just maybe buy a few less yachts.

2019-01-23 02:35:58 UTC  

Now, just leaving is entirely possible and seen historically.