no need for billion dollar wall

i don't understand how a wall is the most effective solution here

also, why cant they get on boats and immigrate to florida?

or missisipii

or cali

syrians can make boats, im sure mexican can also

They already immigrate to those sanctuary city states

yeah

defund those shit holes

Time for Trump to cut sanctuary city funds

Not a waste of money if Mexico pays for it lol

gottem

well my other points stand for it not being an effective solution to the problem

trump would be a great prez if he gave up the wall

now hes just okay

With the Dems around, its actually a mess to kick Illegals out

they come in, they break the law, we catch and release and then they dont show up. If we just stop them from coming in at all then they wont get protected by these sanctuary garbage states

Cant get protected by the US if they arent in the US ***tips maga hat***

1) they can go around the wall. 2) I think it would be much easier to convince moderates to increase border security than it would to convince them to construct a wall, i don't think liberals are against criminals being deported if you prove they are criminals. 3) if they are legal immigrants we will have a much easier time enforcing US laws. so we should allow more legal immigration

@Mystic Mudsdale Hey welcome, how you doing

hey im good u/

Yah I'm doing great

who invited u?

bean

@Fish lol

@An Elbow XD

Probably gonna have my final grade be over 100 percent in sociology 101

Lol

Walls do work.

They worked in Berlin, contrary to popular belief, they work in Hungary, they work in Israel.

The Great Wall of China did actually work, a good portion of it was built during the Ming Dynasty after the Mongol invasions.

"u can go around it lol" is the laziest nonargument in existence.

Turn on your brain.

The Great Wall of China is actually a great parallel because it wasn't built to keep armies out, it was built both as a communication line to warn of armies and to keep small-scale raids at bay.

And it did both of these things perfectly.

It was also built to prevent smuggling as traders would be forced to go through gates where they could be taxed. Obvious parallel is vetting potential citizens coming here legally.

The Jurchens were able to pass through the wall with ease because a Ming general defected.

tl;dr walls work fuck off.

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@Fish Prove me wrong.

Correct me if im wrong, i think hungarys borderwall is on the serbian border, which is very very tiny compared to the USA mexico border. Also yeah i would perfer the china method of a "Wall", i do support watch towers and portions of the border being an actuall wall. But from what i understand, trump wants a giant slab of concrete between the USA and mexico. Considering that the infastructure in the USA is so shit and our bridges keep falling down because we cant maintain them, I do not belive that a 2,000 mile wall can be properly mainitained by the government. Not only will it cost alot to build, but the maintnence of the materials and checking for people who dig under the wall will be crazy. So yes in theory a wall will keep people out, but in practice i don't think a 2000 mile wall will ever be properly maintained. Also you didn't counter my argument about the mexicans building boats