nah

u should see how easy it is to cross over

make legal immigration easier, they will legaly cross, we can tax them, and throw them out if they fail background checks or commit crimes

no need for billion dollar wall

i don't understand how a wall is the most effective solution here

also, why cant they get on boats and immigrate to florida?

or missisipii

or cali

syrians can make boats, im sure mexican can also

They already immigrate to those sanctuary city states

yeah

defund those shit holes

Time for Trump to cut sanctuary city funds

Not a waste of money if Mexico pays for it lol

gottem

well my other points stand for it not being an effective solution to the problem

trump would be a great prez if he gave up the wall

now hes just okay

With the Dems around, its actually a mess to kick Illegals out

they come in, they break the law, we catch and release and then they dont show up. If we just stop them from coming in at all then they wont get protected by these sanctuary garbage states

Cant get protected by the US if they arent in the US ***tips maga hat***

1) they can go around the wall. 2) I think it would be much easier to convince moderates to increase border security than it would to convince them to construct a wall, i don't think liberals are against criminals being deported if you prove they are criminals. 3) if they are legal immigrants we will have a much easier time enforcing US laws. so we should allow more legal immigration

@Mystic Mudsdale Hey welcome, how you doing

hey im good u/

Yah I'm doing great

who invited u?

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@Fish lol

@An Elbow XD

Probably gonna have my final grade be over 100 percent in sociology 101

Lol

Walls do work.

They worked in Berlin, contrary to popular belief, they work in Hungary, they work in Israel.

The Great Wall of China did actually work, a good portion of it was built during the Ming Dynasty after the Mongol invasions.

"u can go around it lol" is the laziest nonargument in existence.

Turn on your brain.

The Great Wall of China is actually a great parallel because it wasn't built to keep armies out, it was built both as a communication line to warn of armies and to keep small-scale raids at bay.

And it did both of these things perfectly.

It was also built to prevent smuggling as traders would be forced to go through gates where they could be taxed. Obvious parallel is vetting potential citizens coming here legally.

The Jurchens were able to pass through the wall with ease because a Ming general defected.

tl;dr walls work fuck off.