subverting human nature is a logical fallacy, can you force people to at like dogs?

no they wouldn't, they would still behave like humans

This is a nonsense argument

can you stop boys chasing after girls? No, it's human nature.

Not even comparable. You're being erratic right now

saying the phrase "subverting nature" is already logically wrong

Read up up both human nature and behaviour

there's a clear distinction

I read up enough. I'm thinking that maybe you should

Are you here to just waste people

but you said you can subvert human nature

people's time? you make no sense whatsover

Yes

that's nonsensical

How so?

it proves you haven't read enough

Tsk

you can only change human behaviour, not nature.

We have done so since recorded history in 5000bc

so which part of human ***"nature"*** changed?

frank opinion. IF YOU WILL. a man wants to fuck. right? you don't take anus by force because societal norms tell you it's wrong. crude example but simple

subversion of animal instinct

That's behavior i'm afraid

what your saying is actually quite erratic and disproving, if your talking about rapes, they still happenzif anything you just explained yourself clearly that societal norms can't change human nature

You shouldn't because we all have a societal contract instead of "fuck it, i do what i want"

if anything at best, it shows that human nature can be quelled to an extent, which is a clear distinction from totally suppressing and wiping it off essentially

the issue she's making is actually not realizing how drastically different humans are

The average man even if society didn't exist and met a woman would very likely not fuck on sight

It is in nature for all of us to be greedy

and that is largely insuppressible

true

Read up on Peter kropotkin @Arkaboo

he explains it in his writings very clearly

the distinction

rapes happen because you have, quite clearly, as callled, animals of both men and women, who have have no respect for societal norm. so, at this point, i don't know what you're arguing, because you want to change human nature and move away from it through "education", as if , "teach men not to rape", is a solution to the animals that have no respect for societal norms

You know, I wll read Peter Kropotkin. I wll find his book so I can better understand where you're coming from

yea and so? the desire to rape to not feel sexually frustrated can never be quelled, no matter what ales or measures you implement

Read mutual aid: the factor of evolution

Ar you arguing for my point now??

actually

how did you guys get to human nature and behavior