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No, are people born racists and bigots? Obviously not, there's a clear difference between human nature and human behaviour

sorry, I'm not trying to engage here, to be honest. I don't think it's productive

Yes, they are

It's been proven in studies

read up on Peter kropotkin, he stunningly portrays it in his writings how their quintessentially different

Infants show in-group preference based on physical attributes

there's a clear distinction between behaviour and nature, nature is universal, behaviour isn't

You can subvert nature and delimit the lizard-part of the brain, I will agree with you on this

human nature is a innate characteristic from birth, behavior isn't

Right. So what's your point? The innate characterstic of humans is to be better off and be able to reproduce and provide for your children

you cannot subvert nature

We have

that's a logical fallacy

No it's not

subverting human nature is a logical fallacy, can you force people to at like dogs?

no they wouldn't, they would still behave like humans

This is a nonsense argument

can you stop boys chasing after girls? No, it's human nature.

Not even comparable. You're being erratic right now

saying the phrase "subverting nature" is already logically wrong

Read up up both human nature and behaviour

there's a clear distinction

I read up enough. I'm thinking that maybe you should

Are you here to just waste people

but you said you can subvert human nature

people's time? you make no sense whatsover

Yes

that's nonsensical

How so?

it proves you haven't read enough

Tsk

you can only change human behaviour, not nature.

We have done so since recorded history in 5000bc

so which part of human ***"nature"*** changed?

frank opinion. IF YOU WILL. a man wants to fuck. right? you don't take anus by force because societal norms tell you it's wrong. crude example but simple

subversion of animal instinct

That's behavior i'm afraid

what your saying is actually quite erratic and disproving, if your talking about rapes, they still happenzif anything you just explained yourself clearly that societal norms can't change human nature

You shouldn't because we all have a societal contract instead of "fuck it, i do what i want"

if anything at best, it shows that human nature can be quelled to an extent, which is a clear distinction from totally suppressing and wiping it off essentially