Message from @Leiro レイロ
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you can only change human behaviour, not nature.
We have done so since recorded history in 5000bc
so which part of human ***"nature"*** changed?
frank opinion. IF YOU WILL. a man wants to fuck. right? you don't take anus by force because societal norms tell you it's wrong. crude example but simple
subversion of animal instinct
That's behavior i'm afraid
what your saying is actually quite erratic and disproving, if your talking about rapes, they still happenzif anything you just explained yourself clearly that societal norms can't change human nature
You shouldn't because we all have a societal contract instead of "fuck it, i do what i want"
if anything at best, it shows that human nature can be quelled to an extent, which is a clear distinction from totally suppressing and wiping it off essentially
the issue she's making is actually not realizing how drastically different humans are
The average man even if society didn't exist and met a woman would very likely not fuck on sight
It is in nature for all of us to be greedy
and that is largely insuppressible
true
he explains it in his writings very clearly
the distinction
rapes happen because you have, quite clearly, as callled, animals of both men and women, who have have no respect for societal norm. so, at this point, i don't know what you're arguing, because you want to change human nature and move away from it through "education", as if , "teach men not to rape", is a solution to the animals that have no respect for societal norms
You know, I wll read Peter Kropotkin. I wll find his book so I can better understand where you're coming from
yea and so? the desire to rape to not feel sexually frustrated can never be quelled, no matter what ales or measures you implement
Ar you arguing for my point now??
actually
how did you guys get to human nature and behavior
I don't even know how I got here. I was just getting my drink on when I got pinged
I scrolled up and it looks like you were having a lil talk about Socialism and Communism
oml
"Socialism is against human nature"?
@Leiro レイロ Look I respect your freedom to believe what you believe
Tell you what...
I do not give a damn what you believe or what, I'm here to make my point that human nature and behaviour are two different factors altogether
this is clearly explained by psychologists
Ori
I don't think you should bother arguing this
Let me read Peter and then maybe we can do this discussion?
as it's basically semantics
it will give you a introduction
They are two different things but it feels like you're trying to argue for "my side" for the most part
the book again is called mutual aid: the factor of evolution