That's behavior i'm afraid

what your saying is actually quite erratic and disproving, if your talking about rapes, they still happenzif anything you just explained yourself clearly that societal norms can't change human nature

You shouldn't because we all have a societal contract instead of "fuck it, i do what i want"

if anything at best, it shows that human nature can be quelled to an extent, which is a clear distinction from totally suppressing and wiping it off essentially

the issue she's making is actually not realizing how drastically different humans are

The average man even if society didn't exist and met a woman would very likely not fuck on sight

It is in nature for all of us to be greedy

and that is largely insuppressible

true

Read up on Peter kropotkin @Arkaboo

he explains it in his writings very clearly

the distinction

rapes happen because you have, quite clearly, as callled, animals of both men and women, who have have no respect for societal norm. so, at this point, i don't know what you're arguing, because you want to change human nature and move away from it through "education", as if , "teach men not to rape", is a solution to the animals that have no respect for societal norms

You know, I wll read Peter Kropotkin. I wll find his book so I can better understand where you're coming from

yea and so? the desire to rape to not feel sexually frustrated can never be quelled, no matter what ales or measures you implement

Read mutual aid: the factor of evolution

Ar you arguing for my point now??

actually

how did you guys get to human nature and behavior

I don't even know how I got here. I was just getting my drink on when I got pinged

I scrolled up and it looks like you were having a lil talk about Socialism and Communism

@Silkiri the generic human nature argument 101

oml

"Socialism is against human nature"?

@Leiro レイロ Look I respect your freedom to believe what you believe

Tell you what...

I do not give a damn what you believe or what, I'm here to make my point that human nature and behaviour are two different factors altogether

this is clearly explained by psychologists

Ori

I don't think you should bother arguing this

Let me read Peter and then maybe we can do this discussion?

as it's basically semantics

yea please do @Arkaboo

it will give you a introduction

They are two different things but it feels like you're trying to argue for "my side" for the most part

the book again is called mutual aid: the factor of evolution

Ok

@Leiro レイロ Can I ask you a simple question? Do you believe in the idea of an individual to pursue their goals and passions?

yes I do

it's important

if not no innovation would happen