Read up on Peter kropotkin @Arkaboo

he explains it in his writings very clearly

the distinction

rapes happen because you have, quite clearly, as callled, animals of both men and women, who have have no respect for societal norm. so, at this point, i don't know what you're arguing, because you want to change human nature and move away from it through "education", as if , "teach men not to rape", is a solution to the animals that have no respect for societal norms

You know, I wll read Peter Kropotkin. I wll find his book so I can better understand where you're coming from

yea and so? the desire to rape to not feel sexually frustrated can never be quelled, no matter what ales or measures you implement

Read mutual aid: the factor of evolution

Ar you arguing for my point now??

actually

how did you guys get to human nature and behavior

I don't even know how I got here. I was just getting my drink on when I got pinged

I scrolled up and it looks like you were having a lil talk about Socialism and Communism

@Silkiri the generic human nature argument 101

oml

"Socialism is against human nature"?

@Leiro レイロ Look I respect your freedom to believe what you believe

Tell you what...

I do not give a damn what you believe or what, I'm here to make my point that human nature and behaviour are two different factors altogether

this is clearly explained by psychologists

Ori

I don't think you should bother arguing this

Let me read Peter and then maybe we can do this discussion?

as it's basically semantics

yea please do @Arkaboo

it will give you a introduction

They are two different things but it feels like you're trying to argue for "my side" for the most part

the book again is called mutual aid: the factor of evolution

Ok

@Leiro レイロ Can I ask you a simple question? Do you believe in the idea of an individual to pursue their goals and passions?

yes I do

it's important

if not no innovation would happen

Good. I feel like like this is bridge where we can meet

are you talking about innovation under socialism?

if that's what you imply?

No. Not idealogical at all. Just people wanting to express themselves and do the things that they want to do

well yes, it was equally important as well

OK, I think we have a common point. I will read your literature, so I can better understand where you are coming from

Then we will pick up this thread again. Sound fair?

sure

i just want to add one last point, in his book it shows how human behaviour can be a force of good and can be changed to work for the greater good