that is my point. I am against free-market/equal oportunity.

@Deleted User not really... First time setup? Yes. Maintenance? Meh

..what?

but in truth, it doesn't exist. it never did, never will.

too slow, sorry

Equal opportunity is too big of a term.

have you ever seen union men repair something dude

maintenance is not meh

@Nikitis why would you want to control anyone? That's just freaking perverse and disgusting

free-market/equal opportunity will never exist. not in a million year, not anywhere in the universe. If you don't determine who your economic elites are, another nation will. and they will pretend to be your elites. but they are loyal to someone else.

@Diokun no

Lmao I never mentioned I wanted to control someone, that was @Diokun

no, right, you just wanted to take most of the money they earned

@Nikitis you literally said "I don't think you can control who your upper-class is in a free market economy."

@Deleted User exactly

That was a reply to @Diokun

@Nikitis exactly. You said it.

it has always being that way. if you don't create your elites, another nation will. its very cheap, nation-wise. 10 billions create an elite inside USA using another nations money. now you have a USA elite that is actually loyal to CHINA.

we used to control who the elite was in the past, in the traditionalist systems of old.

"create your elites" what drugs are you on?

it was called nobility class.

equal rights gives rights to foreign nations to create elites inside your own country, it gives the impression of becoming a rich country. but that money works for somebody else.

Not most of the money they earned, at all. Just a responsible amount in the total picture of the economy. Until a global country starts to exist (which I am against) you have to realize that an economy is within the country's borders.

What has gotten you people so high on conspiracies?

if you don't determine who your nobles are, foreign nations will.

it has always being that way, lol. it always will. problem is everyone is pretending it isn't.

😂😂😂😂

Elites have always existed in societies.

They control and influence the rest of the people to an extent.

if I am a foreign nation trying to control USA by economic means, I wouldn't be open about it, instead I would want my "nobles" USA/insiders to say they are just hard-workers, etc. truth is, they had lots of foreign backing. (not just money, but cold-war methods aswell)

No. "The people" submit themselves to any lies that they believe. @Nikitis

@Diokun True. But to make that out as ordinary is a joke

Lies that are fed to them through mass media and advertising.

"They control and influence the rest of the people to an extent." that is precisely why you don't want your elites to be "random/foreign choosen".

Your point? @Nikitis

@Diokun Most aren't "foreign chosen" they are celebrities for having the same perverse ideals as Feminists

Or just rich because they are successful

Or both

To improve the living standards of most people you have to acknowledge that there is an elite and attune your policies to that fact.

@Nikitis No, you do not

@An Elbow fair enough, but foreign doesn't have to mean just foreign nation, but any powerfull group who is not interested in the best of USA. feminism didn't rise out of nothing, it did because of powerfull group behind. same for any evil out there.