There should be a study wether or not a person being political in his life influences the country

I bet it turns out it doesn't and people are just wasting their time

Same could be said for voting. It’s the mass cultural shifts that are a result of individuals acting. It’s not meaningless, it’s just very close to meaningless ya know?

Yeah and most people don't even vote

Politics are a joke

Ban politics

They're a danger to world peace

"and to re enter the Paris climate agreement "

Hell no

the Paris agreement did nothing to reduce the C02 emissions and at it's best case would delay global warming by 4 years

While costing trillions of dollars

millions of jobs

That’s very reductive of what it did, which was much more than that. What’s your solution @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

Let the free market innovate

technoligies

not some bureaucrats pocketing money

@wahx The first world creates relatively low carbon emissions. If you wanted to reduce emissions you would have to target developing manufacturing hubs like China, Vietnam, and Cambodia, and pretty soon much of Africa. Are you willing to destroy the only hope these peoples have for becoming economically self-reliant in order to lower the risk of climate catastrophe?

Are you the same ivlivs as the right Cafe? Lol

I've said nothing contradictory

I think every people has the right to a homeland, and people should be treated by different standards depending on where they are in the world.

"carbon emissions"
CO2 is just bullshit.

there is real polution that should be stopped.

It's more productive to argue under left wing assumptions because even there all the proposed solutions can be easily proven to be bullshit

why are you even trying to argue if you start with false information and assumtions?

It serves a practical purpose

It matters little if someone believes in manmade climate change if they don't support bad environmental policy

so you think end justify the means, even when you are just harming serious discussions with false information and assumtions?

yes

and even when third world is poluting world.

that's what I said

so you are litterally here to poison the well.

I'm here to discuss and possibly convince some people to have a more practical and righteous worldview

arguing under false assumptions or a bad paradigm is something you must often do if you want to convince people

or maybe just maybe learn to make better arguments, instead of using cheap leftist strategy.

that's an odd attitude

neither side owns strategy

It’s not super convincing when all you do is criticize his arguments without saying why @Jasse

don't join in on this one bud

he's not a bad guy he's just more idealistic than me

I’ll join in on whatever I want thanks

i only pointed out that he just admited he is here just to poison the well. and having really dishonest strategy of "winning debates"