Message from @Obungus
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cronyism doesn't refer to whether it was planned or controlled or anything, it refers to whether friends get jobs in the government
but controlled economies could exist in a fascist sense
Or a form of socialism
I meant crony capitalist
Which isn’t capitalism for starters but
@Obungus Depends what type of fascism
And fascism is not an economic policy as much as socialism
I know that
Fascism can have a more freer crony capitalist economy, or can have a less freer crony capitalist economy
Or it can be a socialist economy
But you could very easily have the state mandate what companies do without the state owning the companies
Yes
Planned economy
which is socialism
And I have never heard of state control constituting socialism
I have
Many times
Even socialists admit this shit
you need the community for socialism
Look up comrade hakim
Any definition of socialism I have found has stated directly that it is the proletariat that must have control
^^^
not always no wahx
It can be state
yes *always*
“Proletariat “ is very fluid
dude its squares and rectangles
It’s always the proletariat in control until socialism fails
Then somehow it wasn’t
It is squares and triangles
? not making that point here
Hence why it’s state or worker control
explain that hence please haha
what is that if then logic
Whether or not socialism can work or would work is a different topic
yeah
A socialist economy is an economy where the MoP is controlled by the state it workers
we're just defining socialism I guess, not arguing for or against it
by the workers
maybe by the state, maybe not
If the state owns the MoP