Which is socialist

I can't find this definition anywhere

I mean even people like comrade hakim say this stuff

And those guys are proper socialists

this goes back to my earlier point that people have used socialism in all kinds of settings

maybe we just have different definitions

and that's ok I guess

yeah but it doesn’t mean they’re right

For example

I just think that it makes more sense in describing this phenomena to describe "socialism" as needing to be socialized

Sweden etc are not socialist

no, they aren't

I agree

I don't know that there is a modern socialist economy

There is

I think Sid is right actually

Can we go to a pictureschat

I googled it lmao

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what'd you find @Obungus

It is defined as a state controlled economy

really, where?

or a collective owned MoP

Anywhere you wanna look for definitions

Ye

I found a couple websites that specify that it needs to be collective

Collective or state

I have found more that say both rather than a collective

interesting. That's convincing @Obungus

Communism would be just workers

It's hard to find what "real socialism" is

The state in socialism would try to remove the market forces and pave the way for communism

but whether or not that works is different

right, like I've said it's a very vague term at this point

true

Communism tho

I think even socialists agree that’s impossible

You’re never going to suppress a market

so communism is more a dictatorship of the workers then yea?

Well there is no state

In communism