Bernie’s a Type 2 Social Dem

That's all we ever wanted

Either he supports socialism or he isn't a social democrat

That’s not true

Type 2 social democrats support a mix of socialist and capitalist policies

Bernie is a Social Democrat when we are using Wikipedia's defination

nordic model = An elaborate social safety net, in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare[10] in a largely tax-funded system.[11]=socialism

Nordic Model is not socialism

Nordic countries are not socialist

Capitalist economy with socialist public services

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https://www.britannica.com/topic/social-democracy

Oh I see

That is the original defnation of Social Democracy

see

"the old definition"

Two definitions

Before modern times, Social Democracy was that

Old was basically democratic socialism

Modern Social Democracy is the Nordic Model

New is leftist capitalism

^

You're just stealing the labels of other people's ideologies and passing it off as your own

Look, we’re just arguing over definitions instead of politics. It’s clear that there are multiple uses of the term “social democracy.”

So the Nordic countries are in a way socialist then?

yes

They have socialist public services like education. No one denies that.

But they also have capitalist market economies.

and healthcare

Yep

no one said they didn't have market economies

They have capitalism market economies

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The meaning of Socialism by google is: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

it'll slowly faze out and slowly become full blown socialism. all I'm saying is that these "tiny steps toward socialism" are a dangerous and slippery slope to full blown socialism.

New Social Democracy isn’t supposed to lead to socialism.

Wikipedia's definition is: "Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management,"

>owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
So regulation **is** socialism

It’s supposed to be a system in itself.

I’m gonna call it OSD and NSD