Message from @Obungus
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Sanders wants a Nordic Model. This is not socialist.
The second is mixed economy
Holy carp
I guess Social Democracy is not Bernie's ideology then
Bernie’s a Type 2 Social Dem
That's all we ever wanted
Either he supports socialism or he isn't a social democrat
That’s not true
Type 2 social democrats support a mix of socialist and capitalist policies
Bernie is a Social Democrat when we are using Wikipedia's defination
nordic model = An elaborate social safety net, in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare[10] in a largely tax-funded system.[11]=socialism
Nordic Model is not socialism
Nordic countries are not socialist
Capitalist economy with socialist public services
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Oh I see
That is the original defnation of Social Democracy
"the old definition"
Two definitions
Before modern times, Social Democracy was that
Old was basically democratic socialism
Modern Social Democracy is the Nordic Model
New is leftist capitalism
^
You're just stealing the labels of other people's ideologies and passing it off as your own
Look, we’re just arguing over definitions instead of politics. It’s clear that there are multiple uses of the term “social democracy.”
So the Nordic countries are in a way socialist then?
yes
They have socialist public services like education. No one denies that.
But they also have capitalist market economies.
and healthcare
Yep
no one said they didn't have market economies
They have capitalism market economies
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The meaning of Socialism by google is: "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."
it'll slowly faze out and slowly become full blown socialism. all I'm saying is that these "tiny steps toward socialism" are a dangerous and slippery slope to full blown socialism.