But I'll find it after

@Leo (BillNyeLand) It's true a black market will always come no matter how hard you try to ban something, especailly a big one for something like guns which is so easily available. The USSR etc tried to stop market forces and they resulted in a "second" economy bigger than the original I believe, because consumer demanding consumer goods they couldn't get due to inefficiency.

Just look at drugs today.

No, but the high-level Freemasons certainly are baby-eating demons

Gun control definitely lowers suicide

Lowering suicide is still better than nothing

How

that makes no sense....

dying has to be one of the easiest things to do

Would you rather die instantly or slowly?

instantly

Yes

AKA jumping off the empire state building

or hanging myself

Most people don't have the Empire state building near them

yes

you build your own

And Hanging is painful and slow

hanging isnt slow when you snap your neck doing it

rather than choking

It's not as quick as a gun

What kind of dumb fuck who would be determined enough to kill themselves in the first place change the decision simply because they can't get guns as easily

lol

That's like making suicides illegal, like it would change anything

Most people who want to die are scared of the pain

i mean either way you will still have pain

living or dying

Good one

But you have less of it and it goes away quicker

I mean hey, you want to make guns more strict over some suicidal guys - sure thing but if they really wanted to. There are many many methods of ways of killing yourself, guns might not even be the most common method

Why go through the trouble of getting a gun, get a piece of rope from the hardware store. And even so, they'd still find a way

But you see, they want it to be quick and painless. They are still afraid of pain.

So what? You think that's going to stop them?

Some laws

Yes

If they don't have a gun, they have to use a painful method.

Well even then, you got to look at the mishaps. I mean if these guys are that dedicated, they'd go through the trouble of getting a gun. These laws might not even stop them from getting a gun in the first place, no guy that suicidal is stupid enough to avoid the decision simply because one of his options is more difficult than it was

There will always be guns accessible, it's not like a complete ban assuming that's what you mean by control

Black Market guns are sort of hard to get

It wouldn't lower, they got other options some being not painful either

So what, I mean stopping a guy from killing himself by changing some laws isn't going to happen. If they are that determined to do it, they will pull through