It's not as quick as a gun

What kind of dumb fuck who would be determined enough to kill themselves in the first place change the decision simply because they can't get guns as easily

lol

That's like making suicides illegal, like it would change anything

Most people who want to die are scared of the pain

i mean either way you will still have pain

living or dying

Good one

But you have less of it and it goes away quicker

I mean hey, you want to make guns more strict over some suicidal guys - sure thing but if they really wanted to. There are many many methods of ways of killing yourself, guns might not even be the most common method

Why go through the trouble of getting a gun, get a piece of rope from the hardware store. And even so, they'd still find a way

But you see, they want it to be quick and painless. They are still afraid of pain.

So what? You think that's going to stop them?

Some laws

Yes

If they don't have a gun, they have to use a painful method.

Well even then, you got to look at the mishaps. I mean if these guys are that dedicated, they'd go through the trouble of getting a gun. These laws might not even stop them from getting a gun in the first place, no guy that suicidal is stupid enough to avoid the decision simply because one of his options is more difficult than it was

There will always be guns accessible, it's not like a complete ban assuming that's what you mean by control

Black Market guns are sort of hard to get

It wouldn't lower, they got other options some being not painful either

So what, I mean stopping a guy from killing himself by changing some laws isn't going to happen. If they are that determined to do it, they will pull through

I think it depends on how willing they are to die

Medication for example would be considered painless, I haven't done the research but I'm quite sure more people have killed themselves over other methods than guns

Around half of all suicides are by guns

That's 20,000 people

But without guns how will you defend your house when the government drone strikes it?

I'm pretty sure a lot of those 20,000 people would rather not feel all the pain

We need ar 15’s to defend against drones and missles

I’m joining

Joking

But yes removing guns would lower suicide rates

I know a lot of people personally who wanted to kill themselves but didn’t since there were no guns in their house

Shooting yourself is the easiest way to go

Well how strict we talking on control, removing or regulating

And the more painless

it really depends on how desperate you are tbh

if you are desperate enough pain wont matter

If you want to you know, abolish the 2nd amendment lmao - yeah sure it would lower. It's a shitty cost to pay but sure it would do at least "something"

Regulating wouldn't change much, even nowadays it's still relatively difficult to get a gun and there's other painless ways. It's not worth regulating for everybody just for the chance some guys will change their minds

Guys who are suicidal aren't bound by the law, regulating guns or even removing them just for suicidal reasons is out of the question - not effective. It'd be more of a chance

But states with the most gun control have lower suicide rates